"Of course, of course! They're fine!" and he added hollowly, " ... old sport." The rain cooled about half-past three to a damp mist, through which occasional thin drops swam like dew. Gatsby looked with vacant eyes through a copy of Clay's Economics, starting at the Finnish tread that shook the kitchen floor, and peering toward the bleared windows from time to time as if a series of invisible but alarming happenings were taking place outside. Finally he got up and informed me, in an uncertain voice, that he was going home." - Chapter 5
I think that this quote shows that Gatsby is really quite obvious with his emotions. Often we may think or feel opposite to what is accepted in society, but we do other wise to be polite or advance our own motives. Some of us, however are not as adapt at doing this. Gatsby be is one of those people, and Fitzgerald shows us this by his use of the words "hollowly" and "vacant". Hollowly suggests that a lack of warmth and meaning, so we the readers can sense that Gatsby does not want to call Nick old sport, but rather Gatsby sees some internal benefit for doing this. Also the use of the word vacant to me shows an absence, not a physical one but rather a mental one. Gatsby is again showing he really doesn't care to be there or wait, so he is just not there at all. I think that while reading the rest of the Great Gatsby we will be able to add more pieces like these to the puzzle that is Gatsby.
Great Analysis! I really love the deconstruction of the language in the passage!
I agree with your statement here, Sabrina. I would have to say these past few chapters have really started to reveal Gatsby as a person for us to truly connect with him. I look forward to "adding the pieces" to Gatsby's character as well. He surely seems to be a bit of a mystery, but none the less, an interesting persona.
"He was profoundly affected by the fact that Tom was there. But he would be uneasy anyhow until he had given them something, realizing in a vague way that that was all they came for. Mr. Sloane wanted nothing. A lemonade? No, thanks. A little champagne? Nothing at all, thanks. . . . I’m sorry ——"
This quote makes me wonder whether or not Tom will find out about the love affair between Gatsby and Daisy and how he will react. Tom really has no right to act negatively, because he is cheating on his wife with Myrtle. Because Daisy does not believe in divorce, it will be interesting to see how this all turns out between Tom and Myrtle, Tom and Daisy, Daisy and Gatsby, and Tom and Gatsby
This is a great analysis and the book encourages this wonder. We know this isn't going to end well but we can wonder earlier in the book. Great analysis!
Great analysis. I agree that it was interesting to observe Gatsby's behavior around Tom - he's normally so casual and cool and in control.
I can't help but wonder the same thing about Gatsby and Daisy's relationship. In a way, I'm almost hoping Tom does find out for him to get a taste of his own medicine. But if he ceases to realize his wife's actions, that makes it all the more interesting.
I just want to say that it was never said that Daisy doesn't believe in divorce. Someone at that party at Myrtle and Tom's apartment said Tom's wife was catholic and they didn't believe in divorce, however, this was not a true statement, just another rumor. Great analysis though!
I loved this! I had the exact same thoughts. Fantastic post Anthony!
I, as well, wonder how everything is going to play out in this book. I want to see how everything plays out and who ends up getting mad at who.
“They’re such beautiful shirts,” she sobbed , her voice muffled in the thick folds. “It makes me so sad because I’ve never seen such-such beautiful shirts before.”
I wonder what Fitzgerald is trying to portray with this passage. Daisy, Gatsby, and Nick are all at Gatsby’s house and the three are finally meeting each other at once. The meeting is akward at first, but they then seem to be having a great time. This scene changes that where Daisy seems to be crying over nothing, but I know that she is crying about something else. This seems to be an effect of Daisy’s frustration towards being married to Tom, but loving Gatsby. That is my interperitation of the passage, but it coulf be another reason. It might be the guilt of Daisy loving Gasby, or Daisy knowing that she might be unfaithful to Tom.
I liked how you saw the shirts as a symbol, I hadn't thought of it that way before.
Nice post! I second Sarah's comment. Good job at interpreting the meaning of the quote.
Great analysis! I actually loved this scene in the movie. It was beautiful but also unexpectedly touching. I think this could be Fitzgerald's way of also showing Daisy's regret. She might be crying at not having spent the last four years with Gatsby and his beautifully extravagant shirts.
I love your analysis and yes, I most certainly agree that the shirts symbolized something else. I never thought it could be any other way. I do, however, wonder what exactly they symbolize. It could be that her love for Gatsby and his for her is beautiful and she knows that that love will ruin someone else, or it could be something else. It's a hard bit of symbolism to crack in my opinion!
Good quote. I got a bit confused at this part of the book and it's good to see a sort of explanation/guess of what's going on here
Really good analysis, I too wonder what the shirts symbolize I think they may portray her love for Gatsby also.
"James Gatz — that was really, or at least legally, his name. He had changed it at the age of seventeen and at the specific moment that witnessed the beginning of his career-when he saw Dan Cody’s yacht drop anchor over the most insidious flat on Lake Superior."
I think that Gatsby working on a yacht for a successful man inspired him to be successful. After seeing the owner Dan Cody passing away, he decided to grow up, change his name to a more professional name, and start working on his future that would bring him to where he's at now in his life. I feel as though his inspiration has always come from Dan Cody, and his Yacht. I wonder what Gatsby would have done if he had never met Dan Cody. It makes me wonder if he would be as successful as he is now.
I completely agree with you, James got lucky when he got onto that yacht. Even if he didn't meet Dan Cody, do you think he still would have somehow tried to get to Daisy without all the money that he has now?
Good job! I really liked how you got all of that out of that quote, i wouldn't have thought about it that way.
(Tom) "Daisy loved me when she married me and she loves me now."
"No," said Gatsby, shaking his head.
"She does though. The trouble is that sometimes she gets these foolish ideas in her head...Once in a while I go off on a spree and make a fool of myself, but I always come back, and in my heart I love her all the time."
"You're revolting," said Daisy.
I felt, like Daisy, revulsion at this scene while I read. Here Tom was defending his love for Daisy when only a day ago he had Myrtle in his arms. Besides that, he mistreated the women in his life (hurting Myrtle, cheating on Daisy). Gatsby is lying to himself, trying to make believe that Daisy never felt anything for Tom, that she was always loyal to him over the years. If both the men could shut up for a moment and let Daisy speak for herself instead of speaking over her and thinking for her, perhaps she could express what she truly felt. They are acting as if they know her thoughts, and it's frustrating. But Daisy is caught. She doesn't want to lower herself to her husband's standard by cheating, but she cares about Gatsby. As the reader I definitely relate to Nick, who is awkwardly watching this scene unfold in all its complexity.
Great post, Sarah! Excellent insights and observations.
I really don't see how he thinks they're "in love" still
I think that you brought up many good points here and really described what you felt well. I think that you're right, that both men need to sit down and (maybe with duct tape on their mouths) let Daisy speak her mind.
Great analysis:) I definitely agree with you! I had the same kind of feeling. It's almost as if Tom is just used to HAVING to love Daisy, that saying it comes so naturally. He hasn't really tapped into reality lately. Also, I'm with you on being the awkward bystander in this situation. Seriously, I have no idea how to feel about this love square thing!
He wanted nothing less of Daisy than that she should go to Tom and say: "I never loved you." After she had obliterated four years with that sentence they could decide upon the more practical measures to be taken. One of them was that, after she was free, they were to go back to Louisville and be married from her house-just as if it were five years ago.
At this point in the book, Gatsby is no longer looked at as this mysterious rich man that everyone is interested in knowing more about. Right now he seems weak, vulnerable, and desperate. His main chain to get to Daisy was through Nick but now that they have broken the ice, Nick is not needed as much. But now I am starting to wonder what Jays plan of action is. You can tell by looking at this quote that he really wants daisy but he is unsatisfied with the fact that she left his party unpleased. Tom does not really like Gatsby that much which is why he keeps an eye on Daisy. But why does it matter if Tom has been seeing somebody behind her back? Times are hard for many of them right now, especially for Jay Gatsby.
Good job jordan! I really liked the quote you chose, and your commentary was very relatable.
Great post! I like how you described the changes Gatsby's character goes through.
"The truth was that Jay Gatsby of West Egg, Long Island, sprang from his Platonic conception of himself. He was a son of God — a phrase which, if it means anything, means just that — and he must be about His Father’s business, the service of a vast, vulgar, and meretricious beauty."
This quote made me wonder alot of things while reading through the book. I wondered how james gatz got his fame, as all it took was motivation after his friends death. Knowing that his past and his parents weren't really successful, it's totally cool how he was able to turn things around. And now he is here, looking almost like a son of god, as the book tells it, since he is so successful. It dazzles me that he is able to keep his identity secret so well. He hosts many parties, but never goes to them. I would really like to know his true story about how he got up to fame, and became the "Great Gatsby". How he became so famous, and the tactics he used to help get his fame!
Agreed-So many holes that need to be filled. I think that the way he became famous might cause some plot twists later?
“‘What kind of a row are you trying to cause in my house anyhow?’” They were out in the open at last and Gatsby was content.” Page 129, Chapter 7.
Wonder: A main focus of the chapter, as described in the quote, was Tom’s realization of Daisy’s relationship with Gatsby. After reading the quote, and those that followed it, I was led to wonder what Tom’s responsive actions will be in regards to his wife’s love of another man. I think that Tom’s volatile temper and confrontational nature will play an important role in his response to Gatsby’s requited love for Daisy.
Tom and Daisy have odd double standard issues. Why is it okay for Tom to have other women, but not okay for Daisy to have another? I think maybe because of the era -- maybe it was more socially acceptable (or at least more common) for men to have a mistress and for the wife to stay at home. Also, I think that Daisy's love is real and lasting.. I could see Tom being upset with that.
"Once in a while I go off on a spree and make a fool of myself, but I always come back, and in my heart I love her all the time.”
It's funny how even though someone can put you through so much trouble, regardless of that, you still love them unconditionally. We see this in chapter 7 when Gatsby's and Daisy's problems are exposed, yet they still find a way back to each other and are madly in love. This quote explains that when you're not with the person you love, sometimes you do stupid things in that time that can affect that relationship. Then you realize that you can't live without that person, and come back eventually because in the end, that person was all that mattered.Now a days people have the wrong idea of love, and I wish it was like it was back then. I wish there were more love stories like theirs, and it makes me feel almost sad.
I think life might have always been like it is now -- not as many real live love stories as we would like. I wish there were though. But it always makes me wonder.. do these beautiful stories come from someone's experience? Or do they come from someone's imagination?
I completely agree with you. I loved this post about love. It is so true!
Awhhhh. I love your reflection, it's adorable and I completely agree!!!! I have nothing else to say because I couldn't have said it better myself!
I really loved how you explained "feel" through your post. I feel like it's very accurate and perfect.
"Human sympathy has its limits, and we were content to let all their tragic arguments fade with the city lights behind."
Wonder: Here Nick is leaving the city with Jordan and Tom. The tensions are really high strung in the group after Tom and Gatsby's fight. This quote really struck me because it sounded so impersonal and finished. I wonder how much Nick truly cares about his cousin Daisy. I don't think they are actually that close because Nick seemed so entirely over her drama. He doesn't really identify with any of his rich friends. They seem to exist in a world just floating above his, full of carelessness and fantastic wealth. I wonder who Nick would side with if he had too. While he's friends with Daisy and Gatsby, he is also friends with Tom and respects Daisy's marriage. I wonder if all the affairs Nick has been exposed to will cause him to become cynical about love. He may let Jordan slip by and never want anything to do with marriage.
I really like how you are turning your attention to not only Gatsby and Daisy, but to Nick and Jordan as well. :)
It is cool that you focused on Nick too and what it would be like if he had to take sides.
"Next day Gatsby called me on the phone.
“Going away?” I inquired.
“No, old sport.”
“I hear you fired all your servants.”
“I wanted somebody who wouldn’t gossip. Daisy comes over quite often — in the afternoons.”
So the whole caravansary had fallen in like a card house at the disapproval in her eyes."
This makes me feel something toward Gatsby. No, not the love kind of feeling of course. It's the feeling you get when you relate to someone. In many ways I feel that I can relate to him as for the gossip. In all honesty, I hate gossip - even if I have done it in the past, I'm only human. After awhile, I just grow tired of complaining about other people or spreading negative rumors, what's the point right? Just like Gatsby, I feel the same way, that if I had servants around my house that kept gossiping, I would fire them too. I believe as far, the story is starting to reveal Gatsby's true character as someone to prefers peace over conflict, yet someone who doesn't seem emotionally attached to people, especially his former servants who probably saw him all day. If Gatsby was real, he would be the kind of person I'd hang out with everyday, not to be in a relationship with, but someone I know I can relate to and have fun. I'm getting off topic here, but my point is that I can feel what Gatsby is/was feeling here.
I really like how you found a way to relate to Gatsby even if it was just through you mutual view on gossip. :)
I love how you connected to Gatsby and just the quote in general is a superb one!
‘“Can’t repeat the past?” he cried incredulously. “Why of course you can!”’ ch. 6
This quote makes me FEEL a bit angry, a bit sad, and a bit hopeful. I feel angry at this idea because I think of all of the manipulative people in the world. If you are a good person with good intentions, you don’t necessarily think of the sneaky ways of others because... you don’t think of them either way! Innocent, sweet people can get deceived into situations and not even know it. It just doesn’t feel fair to me. It makes me feel sad because a lot of what happens in the past isn’t always good. Hence the sayings of letting the past be in the past. It makes me think of how history repeats itself.. but what if we don’t want it to? On another note, however, this quote makes me feel hopeful. It makes me feel happy for Gatsby. It makes me want to keep my fingers (AND my toes:) crossed for his wishes to become reality. It makes me feel like we can guide our own destinies and make our dreams real with the simple tool of our mind. This quote wraps many emotions, as does this book.
I love your response! The feelings and explanations for each are outstanding.
I feel the same way with Gatsby, I feel a desperation from Gatsby that he will go to any extent to be with the girl of his dreams.
"He hadn't once ceased looking at Daisy, and I think he revalued everything in his house according to the measure of response it drew from her well-loved eyes."
Here, I felt majorly creeped out. Gatsby seems to have this great obsession of Daisy based on his illusion of her and would change everything and anything for her. You can also note, that this is similar to consumerism because they believed in an illusion of being happy with material items. This also made me fearful because Daisy has so much power over Gatsby, an influential and wealthy man, weather she knows it or not. I wonder if she knows this? I wonder how much Gatsby would do for her and what lengths he would take to keep her happy?
Great analysis! I thought the same thing too about Gatsby, his character seems really mysterious to me now.
"“Oh, you want too much!” she cried to Gatsby. “I love you now — isn’t that enough? I can’t help what’s past.” She began to sob helplessly. “I did love him once — but I loved you too.”"
Throughout the rest of this scene I could clearly see the frantic panic that must have been coursing through Gatsby as he realized his plan was falling apart. The thought that had practically held him together for the last five years was just shattered and when tom tells Daisy about the drug stores, Gatsby begins to lose her all together. Even though it's Gatsby who's talking to her, she calls for Tom to stop it and it was at this point that I knew for sure (even if I have seen the movie) that she would never leave him. Gatsby probably knew this too, he began to panic a bit before this but now he was truly drowning. This entire chapter was extremely emotional, the last few paragraphs were like wading through a swamp and the agony of the characters was tangible.
“'And she doesn't understand,' he said. 'She used to be able to understand. We'd sit for hours−' He broke off and began to walk up and down a desolate path of fruit rinds and discarded favors and crushed flowers. 'I wouldn't ask too much of her,' I ventured. 'You can't repeat the past.' 'Can't repeat the past?' he cried incredulously. 'Why of course you can!'”
This quote makes me wonder a lot of things about Gatsby. Ever since the beginning of the book he has been shrouded in mystery, and Nick or anyone else never really knew anything about him until much later. With this quote, Gatsby had finally met the woman he had been yearning to see again for many years, but he feels that she doesn't understand why he throws such parties or invites so many random people into his home on every weekend. Nick had said that Gatsby was looking for a piece of himself that he had had when he was in love with Daisy, and I am wondering what piece of himself that is. Is it his honesty? Or happiness in things that were not material? Or maybe he is searching for a time long since past, when he and Daisy were young and carefree and in love? I think that when he says that you can repeat the past, it makes me think of learning about the great wars in detail and how we can't ignore our mistakes that we have made, but need to remember them and learn from them.
The questions you pose here are quite interesting, but very well thought out. My question for you would be, if you were to put yourself in Gatsby's shoes what would be your answer to these questions?
You always give such great reflections! I think these are great questions to come up with!
"And it was from Cody that he inherited money - a legacy of twenty-five thousand dollars. He didn't get it. He never understood the legal device that was used against him, but what remained of the millions went intact to Ella Kaye. He was left with his singularly appropriate education; a vague contour of Jay Gatsby had filled out to the substantiality of a man."
"He wanted nothing less of Daisy than that she should go to Tom and say: “I never loved you.” After she had obliterated four years with that sentence they could decide upon the more practical measures to be taken. One of them was that, after she was free, they were to go back to Louisville and be married from her house — just as if it were five years ago."
I thought this quote (The second one) was interesting because throughout the book, thought Gatsby is well off and has these huge parties and is mysterious to almost everyone, there are still things in his life that he regrets and wants to redo the past/those moments or "cover them up", when in reality that's just about impossible to do because "You can't relive the past" and even if you make mistakes in your past, you can't just rewind time to fix those mistakes; Gatsby just needs to realize that it's there forever and he's going to have to learn to just live with the consequences.
The whole "theme" of Gatsby wanting to relive the past or cover up the past/it's consequences is pretty interesting and I'd like to see how it all results as the story goes on.
I think that you bring up a very interesting point here about Gatsby and his character. How he can't change the mistakes he has made, and yet he still wants to relive the past and try to fix those mistakes.
"..the specific moment that witnessed the beginning of his career-when he saw Dan Cody’s yacht drop anchor over the most insidious flat on Lake Superior."
It's as if Dan Cody's arrival on Lake Superior is the spark that lights Gatsby's flame for fame, wealth and success. With that idea in mind, I WONDER what would have become of the younger Gatsby, Gatz. Would he have stayed where he was? Would he have found something else to spark his flame? I WONDER what truly sparked Gatsby's flame about Dan Cody, was it his wealth? knowledge? saying? presence? With all of my wonders it makes it harder for me, the reader, to focus on Gatsby's now, in the story, and not his past. It makes me wish I was truly in the book to ask him these questions or the author made a prequel. I WONDER if by the end of this book my questions will be answered.
Your post is really good. I really like how you have all these interesting questions/wonders. I wouldn't have thought the same way. Great job!
I find it interesting how concerned you are about Gatsby's history. I think you shouldn't be so caught up in his past, as you describe, and rather embrace his current character in the book. Overall, your passage if very well-written with a great use of vocabulary. On your next reading journal, you should refrain from putting the word "think", "feel", or "wonder" in all CAPS. It takes away from the flow of your writing. At most capitalize the first use of the word, or just incorporate it without capping. Readers can pick up on the theme without having the all capped words.
"He wanted nothing less of Daisy than that she should go to Tom and say: 'i never loved you' After she had obliterated four years with that sentence they could decide upon the more practical measures to be taken. One of them was that, after she was free, they were to go back to Louisville and be married from her house-just as if it were five years ago."
Feel: I chose feel for todays RJE because I feel really bad for Gatsby in this part of the book. He wants Daisy so bad, but it can never happen because she is faithful to her religion and isn't willing to get divorced. Tom also still loves her apparently, but she doesn't love him back. Daisy wants Gatsby back, but she also loves being catholic. It is just one big cluster of love, confusion, and sadness and everyone is getting screwed over. Gatsby is so desperate that he is wishing that he can actually go back in time with Daisy and get married. However, this book is nonfiction and I don't think that will end up happening.
I like how you state why you think Daisy and Gatsby won't get back together.
“What’ll we do with ourselves this afternoon?” cried Daisy, “and the day after that, and the next thirty years?”
“Don’t be morbid,” Jordan said. “Life starts all over again when it gets crisp in the fall.”
This quote makes me think of life in general. Many young people nowadays think themselves immortal to a certain extent. Not many care about their health, staying fit and active, or keeping physically and mentally fit. Many think they will bounce back since they are young, but what will happen to them when that mindset carries on into adult life when we no longer have those capabilities. This quote makes me feel somewhat distraught about not only my future, but the futures of the characters. They're young and beautiful, they think that when they do grow older, time just restarts itself and they keep on living. This quote makes me wonder about my own life and where I am headed. I wasn't very concerned with life before Junior year because I felt I had time, now looking into all these internships and colleges and futures, I'm thinking the same thing Daisy is thinking and I feel like Jordan's thoughts in this situation is my past self as well as some of my friends and family. It also makes me wonder what Daisy is thinking in this moment. Many take Daisy for a light hearted and frivolous girl, but she says numerous deep and thought provoking comments like this throughout the book. Is Daisy reflecting on her past and in turn thinking of her future? Is she thinking of a future with Tom or Gatsby?
I like how you went into such detail about the perspectives shown in your quote. I love that quote because it shows both perspectives on thinking about the future!
You could either sit there any worry about whats gonna happen every minute, or you could snap out of it and realize that there is time for second chances and new beginnings.
Also, I definitely see Daisy as a much deeper character than she is often given credit for!
"You always look so cool," she repeated. - Chapter 7
This quote gave me mixed feelings. I was angry that Tom was being his usual self and clashing with Gatsby. I felt happy that Daisy and Gatsby were so happy together. It was good that Daisy had Gatsby because Tom had Myrtle. It isn't fair that Tom thinks that he can have an affair and Daisy can't. I was upset that Tom was so shocked all of a sudden. Daisy deserved better than him. When Gatsby wanted Daisy to say "I never loved you." to Tom I was sad for Tom because of course she loved him at one point in their marriage. This all happened so fast for me. I felt that Tom shouldn't have gotten so upset about their affair. But it sounded like he was more upset about Jay Gatsby lies about his life. I felt so sad that Myrtle died and that Gatsby was ready to blame himself for Daisy's mistake. It really pissed me off when Daisy reconciled. I was so angry that she just let everything go. This is the point in the book when I start to dislike Daisy a lot. I personally felt sorry for all the couples. Tom and Daisy. Myrtle and Tom. Wilson and Myrtle. They all went through affairs. Even if Wilson didn't have one (well that we know of) he still experienced the pain from his own wife's affair with a man whom he thought was his friend. I love this book but here I am again, getting attached to characters. I felt that in the middle of the 7th chapter it was all going downhill and it did end up doing so. I felt so connected to Gatsby before and when I learned of his lies I loved him even more. Daisy is just honestly obnoxious. I do not like Tom, though he does have his funny moments. Nick and Jordan are great people. Myrtle is an odd, cheerful woman. Wilson is a sweet man who just doesn't know the truth. I can't wait to finish the book to finish up my thoughts of all the characters.
Rachel: My goodness lovely! You give some of the most passionate responses about the books we read. I am also excited about finishing reading this book to learn more about all of the characters and seeing where my feelings wind up. :)
"He knew that when he kissed this girl, and forever wed his unutterable visions to her perishable breath, his mind would never romp again like the mind of God. So he waited, listening for a moment longer to the tuning-fork that had been struck upon a star. Then he kissed her. At his lips' touch she blossomed for him like a flower and the incarnation was complete."
How I feel from this quote is that this was more then just a kiss for Gatsby. The way that Fitzgerald described this kiss made it seem like this would change the way Gatsby is. That it would make him think differently and such. And once they kissed, he is able to describe it like it was the last piece of a puzzle that is finally put together to create this beautiful picture of what love is. The way that Fitzgerald writes helps me create this perfect image in my mind, due to the way on how descriptive he is. I think this makes him such a unique author.
“I suppose he had the name ready for a long time, even then. His parents were shiftless and unsuccessful, farm people”
This quote made me FEEL, that even though you not are proud of your parents, you will still love them, and got through water and fire to help/safe them. And the idea, that you can have such a strong relationship, that It is impossible to break, and they will always be there for you, and it doesn’t matter whatever you do.
This is a great emotion you were able to pull out of the book. The connection with this quote and the love people have for their parents is pretty cool.
Great response to the quote. I agree, even if your not proud of your parents you will still love them, and this goes for everything.
" 'I wouldn’t ask too much of her,” I ventured. “You can’t repeat the past.'
'Can’t repeat the past?” he cried incredulously. “Why of course you can!' "
This quote made me wonder how the future change of events of the book are going to take place. I believe that Tom will eventually find out about Gatsby and Daisy, and when he does I am curious to find how his reaction will be presented. If Gatsby believes that he can repeat the past, he will take it to his grave. He has a huge heart for Daisy and knows that Tom doesn't deserve her, but he is stuck in finding a way to get her to leave him. She knows that if she tries to leave Tom, he will take it to his grave. So overall I am wondering what Gatsby will do to try and solve this dispute between the couple, and what will happen if he doesn't.
"Daisy loved me when she married me and she loves me now."
This quote stuck out to me because it made me wonder if Tom was being ignorant, or truly believed that Daisy loved him. Clearly he is being told his wife doest love him, but he seems to refuse to believe it. Later on this page he talks about how he loves Daisy and always comes back to her, even though he had and affair with Myrtle, he seems to be kind of a hypocrite. I also what the fate of Daisy and Tom will be as the book progresses, and where Gatsby will come into the mix.
I think he hardly knew what he was saying, for when I asked him what business he was in he answered, “That’s my affair,” before he realized that it wasn't the appropriate reply.
This chapter makes me feel slightly uneasy about Gatsby and his character because of the things that he could be hiding from Nick and the people which he occupied his time with. It also makes me feel interested in the book a little more because it is hinting at one of the rising actions of the story.
“‘I know your wife’ continued Gatsby, almost aggressively.”
I can just hear the insecurity in that line. It seems to me that Gatsby is trying to leave an impression on Tom but... to be honest, this was not the smoothest move Gatsby could have pulled. This makes me THINK that Gatsby’s waving around of his money, social status, etc. is all just a facade to hide his insecurities. When you think about it, it’s usually the “Cool guys” who have the most insecurities of them all! They just try really hard to keep them private. I think it’s interesting that we can see Gatsby break his cool persona for one instant over a pretty girl.
Eh, I'm going to have to find a minor bit of factual reasoning error in the quote, sorry. I'm not cool by any definition of the word, and still, I'm loaded with more insecurities than a 'Shades Only' disco club where everyone hides under the tables and discusses their feelings over pink martinis with Celine Dion on the loudspeakers at 2 o'clock in the morning. True story.
Fair enough. I was mostly trying to say insecurities exist in everyone, even those who don't show it. But I see how my phrasing might have suggested otherwise. c:
Being cool and having insecurities aren't mutually exclusive, Adrian.
This was a astute observation on insecurity within characters. I feel that nearly everyone has experienced an event in which someone with insecurity attempts to overcompensate, whether it be on the highway when the person with flame decals on their 3-foot high suspension truck cuts you off or in other undesirable locales.
It is amazing how you can pull so much from just a simple quote! I agree with the statement you said about "cool guys" having the most insecurities. They try so hard to cover up their insecurities.
"Through all he said, even through his appalling sentimentality, I was reminded of something — an elusive rhythm, a fragment of lost words, that I had heard somewhere a long time ago. For a moment a phrase tried to take shape in my mouth and my lips parted like a dumb man’s, as though there was more struggling upon them than a wisp of startled air. But they made no sound, and what I had almost remembered was uncommunicable forever."
This quote made me feel…just…sad. I'm know entirely sure why, but sadness is a feeling, and we're trying to encourage feelings, really any feelings at all, from the cold, hard, shell that is Adrian Schnepp, so I grabbed on to it. It evokes…something, within the reader, within Nick himself. Something long lost, a taste of some all important or earth-shattering truth. A message, a creed, an endless rhythm, something coded into all of us, something that gives meaning to what it means to be human. For a moment there, you can feel hope, unbounded hope. You almost lean in towards the text as the author tantalizingly dangles this time-worn secret, that something you were looking for but never even knew you lost. I mean, art, love, the pursuit of happiness and joy, what are we all working towards? What is that…that THING that we're all trying to achieve, enlightenment I guess, but it's not that, it's that SOMETHING that lets us know that yes, we are truly alive, and yes, we are one with everyone and everything. Does anyone else here strive for that? That sense of absolute truth, the answer behind everything, does anyone else ever look for the question that resulted in us? Does anyone else here ever strive for that feeling, that one moment, that they can say "YES. I've beat the game. I've won at life. I have become what I wanted to be. I am at peace within myself". I look for that feeling every day, every damn day, and this quote came SO CLOSE to telling me what I was looking for, for delivering that silent promise. I can imagine the author laughing manically as he yanked away that truth from everyone who read the book. OR maybe he doesn't know the truth either. Maybe he's just looking for the answer, just like the rest of us. Either way, this quote brushed past something important, something dreadfully important, and it's now my life's goal to find out what. It's what should be driving all of us humans. Because without that drive, who are we really?
Great reflection, Adrian! And great quote too! I didn't really notice it much during the book but that line about "An elusive rhythm, a fragment of lost words" is just worded so well. I feel like this whole entire book is filled up with individual, amazing, quotes.
Wonderful (and wordy) analysis! I thought that the quote you chose hinted at a hard-to-remember truth that happened long ago relating to Gatsby, and I feel like it might have some important role to play when we find out more about him. If you look primarily at the "uncommunicable forever" part of the quote it seems makes a little more sense. Great analysis nonetheless.
"I can tell you right now," she answered. "He owned some drug-stores, a lot of drug-stores. He built them up himself."
This has to be the fifth different story behind how Gatsby came to have so much money. Gatsby is a legend in the city of New York, few people actually know Gatsby and no one knows his story. I don't WONDER who Gatsby is but why exactly is it such a big mystery. He did tell Nick that he came from wealthy parents but wouldn't that mean that he would be living East Egg where all the old money is at? He was not telling the whole truth about his past, as if he has something to hide. There are other speculations about how he is a successful business man, inherited it from a rich mentor, became a bootlegger or had it passed down through the family. There has to be a bigger picture for the mystery about who really is Jay Gatsby
Great post Erik! I love your quote and how it related to the identity of Jay Gatsby. I think that you really analyzed this well and made great sense of this. If you wish to understand who Gatsby is and to solve the mystery, you should look into reading my analysis. Overall, great job, old sport!
“The God damned coward!” he whimpered. “He didn’t even stop his car.”
FEEL: This entire section of the book was a bit of a blur of emotion. At first, I was shocked at Myrtle being killed, because I hadn't expected her character to end like that. I didn't expect her to live, but I REALLY didn't expect her to be hit by a car. Then, when they aid a yellow car did it, I became a little bit nervous, because I recognized that as Gatsby's car, and I thought Tom would try to kill him right off. Then I realized that Tom told Wilson that the car belonged to him, and I was quite amused at the idea of him getting arrested because he had been acting so poorly. But when that didn't happen, and he just left, and said the above quote to Nick, I again became a bit scared for Gatsby, because Tom appears to be a violent man, and he was distraught at Myrtle's death. In my experience, violent characters can do all sorts of insane things when they're distraught, so I was prepared for a murder or something.
What an excellent observation! The repeated allusions to Tom's violence is a dire portent for possibly lethal events which might occur in the near future.
Quote:"So we drove on toward death through the cooling twilight."
Wonder: As I was reading I came upon this quote. It was one of those times where you come to a complete stop and think. It is a very chilling quote and puzzles me. In context with the story it makes sense. However, it still seems to have a great deal of mystery behind it and I wonder what else it could mean. I wonder if Fitzgerald was trying to say two things with this quote. It seems like it is a quote that could be interpreted many different ways.
"He wanted nothing less of Daisy than that she should go to Tom and say: “I never loved you.”"
This quote, and this whole love triangle, makes me feel a lot of things. I feel like honestly, love is a mess of confused feelings and wanting to make other people happy. I was able to connect this quote to life nowadays. Where you want someone to do something to make your life easier. Instead, though, the stay with there significant other, even though the know they like you! This quote makes me feel a lot of connections to my own life, and love triangles that I, or my friends might have encountered. Theres a lot of drama that comes with love triangles, just like we learned from The Hunger Games or other books like it. I feel like the Great Gatsby does a great job of portraying this, and with every twist I feel my heart wondering what might happen next and hoping that Daisy and Gatsby would find a way to be together.
Interesting connections to your own life and other literature.
I really liked the connections that you used and your optimism towards Gatsby and Daisy's relationship.
I really love that you connected this to both your life and other literature. I think that you should have included more of how you feel into this. How do these triangles on *your* life make *you* feel? How do you think *Daisy* feels? Who are you in your own triangle (Daisy, Gatsby, or Tom)?
But this was a really great entree!
He wanted nothing less of Daisy than that she should go to Tom and say: “I never loved you.” After she had obliterated four years with that sentence they could decide upon the more practical measures to be taken.
This quote makes me wonder if Tom will figure out about Gatsby liking Daisy. She really loves her religion and doesn't want to divorce Tom so she stays with him. Her not wanting to get a divorce will cause more problems between her and Tom and maybe even Gatsby. This also makes me wonder if she will later get a divorce even though it's against her religion.
"You can't repeat the past." "Can't repeat the past?" he cried incredulously. "Why of course you can!" (Chapter 6)
I feel like this quote struck me the most in this chapter. In this part, Gatsby is talking about his past love life with Daisy, wanting to start over again, but I feel like this quote can also relate to something else besides love. We make many mistakes in our lives, and after each mistake is committed, all we want to do is just rewind and start over again. Sometimes the mistakes we make can be big mistakes and as time goes by and we look back, we just think "man, I just wish I did this, or "I should've not done that" sorta thing. Sadly, we don't have the power to turn back time and repeat what we did in the past, we just have to have the memory of our mistakes with us.
“Plenty of gas,” said Tom boisterously. He looked at the gauge. “And if it runs out I can stop at a drug-store. You can buy anything at a drug-store nowadays.”
A pause followed this apparently pointless remark. Daisy looked at Tom frowning, and an indefinable expression, at once definitely unfamiliar and vaguely recognizable, as if I had only heard it described in words, passed over Gatsby’s face.” -Chapter 7
THINK: I think that this was so extremely positively important because Gatsby's fortune was always a mystery, even to Nick. Tom had figured out that Jay Gatsby wasn't from any wealth family or family fortune, he had made all his money through the sales of alcohol. Though, what made the rich and luxurious Gatsby the man he was, was the significant detail that the alcohol was illegal. The Alcohol was sold under the counter due to Gatsby owning serval pharmacies. $40 got you a pint every ten days, which with many clients buying the bootlegged alcohol, made Gatsby an extreme amount of money in a small period of time. So Tom had found out that Gatsby wasn't the man everyone thought he was, which led to much more of Gatsby secrets to be revealed. So in conclusion, I THINK that Tom saying that to Gatsby was an indication to Daisy that maybe Gatsby wasn't the man she had fallen in love with and thought she knew so personally.
“I wouldn’t ask too much of her,” I ventured. “You can’t repeat the past.”
“Can’t repeat the past?” he cried incredulously. “Why of course you can!”
He looked around him wildly, as if the past were lurking here in the shadow of his house, just out of reach of his hand.
“I’m going to fix everything just the way it was before,” he said, nodding determinedly. “She’ll see.”
I feel that in a way Gatsby represents a little part of every reader throughout the story, as highlighted in this quote. I feel as if there is a point in every person's life where they try and hold on to some part of their past that they feel as though they had screwed up in some way and wish that they could change. Gatsby is very aggressive with his idea that he can and will repeat the past to try and get back the times of his life which he regrets leaving, including having Daisy's love.
Great obseravtion, I agree that Gatsby has a sort of strange longing for his past that he can't seem to let go of.
"James Gatz — that was really, or at least legally, his name. He had changed it at the age of seventeen and at the specific moment that witnessed the beginning of his career — when he saw Dan Cody’s yacht drop anchor over the most insidious flat on Lake Superior. It was James Gatz who had been loafing along the beach that afternoon in a torn green jersey and a pair of canvas pants, but it was already Jay Gatsby who borrowed a rowboat, pulled out to the Tuolomee, and informed Cody that a wind might catch him and break him up in half an hour." pg. 98
I think this was a big turning point in the book. This explains Gatsby's life as a child to now adulthood. It explains all the rumors and how they tied in with one another. It explains how James Gatz turned into Jay Gatsby. This wasn't just simply a name change, this was a poor boy from North Dakota who turned into a very wealthy and successful man living in New York. I thought this part of the book really symbolized how and why Gatsby was the way he was. It showed how determination controlled his life. It showed how he had the drive to become successful with "new wealth". I think even though it was a flashback and wasn't very significant to the plot of the book, I think this part really explained the book and it's main character.
“...these reveries provided an outlet for his imagination; they were a satisfactory hint of the unreality of reality, a promise that the rock of the world was founded securely on a fairy’s wing.”
Feel: What I admire most about Fitzgerald's writing is that through it the reader is immersed in a complete sensory realm filled with the most beautiful depictions. This quote in particular is an example of that at work, while relaying to the reader the misconstrued optimism and unyielding desire Gatsby harbors--Gatsby is a true character of emotion!Additionally, I feel Fitzgerald’s poetic and symbolic writing style supplement in conveying just how fantastical Gatsby’s premonitions are.
I really love the word choices you used, it gives me a strong feeling for what your writing.
I totally connect with your view on Fitzgerald's writing. Through poetic and symbolic writing, the reader is able to make a deeper, more passionate connection with the story. I feel I am enjoying this book much than The Jungle, because in the Jungle, it seemed as if almost everything was stated very matter-of-factually. In The Great Gatsby the descriptions go much more in depth and are beautiful to read.
"It is invariably saddening to look through new eyes at things upon which you have expended you own powers of adjustment" page 104 Chapter 6
Wonder: This quote makes me wonder what it would be like look at things you yourself have already seen and judged through someone else's point of view. Nick talks about how his perspective on West Egg changed when he looked at it the way Daisy did. It seems that depending on how you personally look at things its changes the entire environment and mood of the situation. I wonder what it would be like if Nick was to see the way Gatsby sees West Egg and how Daisy sees it. Maybe the two would be sad in the same ways.
I liked how you connected your wonderings to yourself. It is an interesting perspective the book is written from, because we see so many angles like the one you touched on.
I loved how you personally connected it. Wow I wonder what it would be like to be judged through someone else's point of view. SO WEIRD!
"Gatsby, his hands still in his pockets, was reclining against the mantelpiece in a strained counterfeit of perfect ease, even of boredom. His head leaned back so far that it rested against the face of a defunct mantelpiece clock, and from this position his distraught eyes stared down at Daisy, who was sitting, frightened but graceful, on the edge of a stiff chair.
“We’ve met before,” muttered Gatsby. His eyes glanced momentarily at me, and his lips parted with an abortive attempt at a laugh. "
Feel: I felt that I could identify easily with this quote due to Gatsby's extremely strained and awkward (a popular term is "spaghetti") interaction with Daisy. From simple context and dialogue clues, it would seem that Gatsby had known who Daisy was prior to this encounter and wished to speak with her both then and now but either lacked the courage or was unsure due to other matters. I felt how Gatsby felt when I try and interact with other people; it is often very difficult to try and speak with others even if they are close friends to me. More often than not, I will spout a statement of unfathomable stupidity and try to play it off later. It is very easy to identify with Gatsby, for trying to speak with someone you evidently have an attraction to will often result in the expulsion of spaghetti from all orifices.
“He followed me wildly into the kitchen, closed the door and whispered: ‘Oh, God!’ in a miserable way. ‘What’s the matter?’ ‘This is a terrible mistake,’ he said, shaking his head from side to side, ‘a terrible, terrible mistake,” (Fitzgerald 94).
I think it’s interesting how Jay Gatsby’s mysterious and enigmatic character completely broke down when it was revealed that he had a clear and relatable motive to his actions--love. It made me think about just good Fitzgerald is at developing characters, and made me think about how I could apply unknown motives being revealed into my writing as a means to make a character interesting. I also feel like there must be a little bit more behind Gatsby’s character, and I think that there are still more questions to be answered, and seeing as how easily the secret of Gatsby’s motivation was given up, I think that there are more secrets to come that are even more shocking. It also makes me wonder what kind of conflict is going to happen between Tom and Gatsby, as Tom is cheating on his wife, and Gatsby would be seeking to take Tom’s wife from him.
The first sentence of your analysis is exactly what I was thinking!
Quote: "'It's pretty isn't it, old sport!' He jumped off to give me a better view. 'Haven't you seen it before?' I'd seen it. Everybody had seen it. It was rich cream color, bright with nickel, swollen here and there in its monstrous length with triumphant hat-boxes and supper-boxes and tool-boxes..." (Fitzgerald 64)
I think Fitzgerald's highly in-detail description of Jay Gatsby's car serves as a representation of frivolous American consumerism in the 1920's (and even today). Gatsby, a very well-off individual, decided to display his wealth through the items he purchased. This was the case for many other wealthy Americans during the 1920's. Fitzgerald's use of the word "monstrous" to describe Gatsby's car gives a negative connotation to Gatsby's ownership of such an excessively luxurious automobile. Furthermore, Nick Carraway lives a modest life, surrounded by great wealth, and Fitzgerald describes the loneliness of Nick throughout the story. In the consumerist era of the 1920's, you HAD to have physical STUFF to fit in. I believe without a doubt that the author wished to portray this message through the narrations of Nick Carraway.
“With an effort her wit rose faintly, “We’ll meet you on some corner. I’ll be the man smoking two cigarettes.”
I THINK that this quote is displaying her knowledge of the situation between her husband and were he would always run off to. This quote made me Think about how when ever your doing something there can or will be a consequence to that action. He decided to cheat on his wife. This lead to some fairly unfortunate events such as his wife drifting from him and the knowledge of his other girl wanting to leave that area for about 10 years then. This quote can be applied to everyone today no matter what situation if what we do can change peoples position in something or can change something there can or will be a consequence.
'I wouldn't ask too much of her,' I ventured.
'You can't repeat the past.' 'Can't repeat the past?' he cried incredulously. 'Why of course you can!'
He looked around him wildly, as if the past were lurking here in the shadow of his house, just out of reach of his hand.
'I'm going to fix everything just the way it was before,' he said, nodding determinedly. 'She'll see.'
He talked a lot about the past and I father that he wanted to recover something, some idea of himself perhaps, that had gone into loving Daisy. His life had been confused and disordered since then, but if he could once returned to a certain starting place and go over it all slowly, he could find out what that thing was..
This quote makes me wonder of what would have happened if Gatsby and Daisy's relationship if he had been born into money. It seems like all that Daisy really cares about is money and that is the reason that she is with Tom, despite the fact that he cheats on her. Daisy claims that the reason she married Tom is because it would "please" her parents, but in reality, I think that Daisy is just trying to make herself think that she found herself a silver lining, so that she doesn't feel all the regrets from the choices she's done. I would love to see an alternative universe version of Gatsby having money and meeting Daisy. Daisy seemed to love Gatsby despite the fact that he was poor the first time she met him, but the fact that she doesn't wait for him makes me wonder if she did it because she knew that Gatsby would never be rich or because she got tired or waiting. Despite all of that, I wonder what would happen if Gatsby wasn't so stuck in the past. His whole life revolves around trying to recreate this one moment and he's super optimistic about Daisy calling, so it makes me wonder how his reactions and Daisy's actions would have changed them both as a whole.
QUOTE- "“These things excite me so,” she whispered." Chapter 6, Daisy.
Response? Yes, this is a small quote, (very unlike me,) but so much is said in just this snippet. I think that Daisy is very much in a titillating thrill because of the festivities of seeing Gatsby again, but also by being around him and her current mess of a husband. She, I think, is also a bit overwhelmed by the sheer intimidating beauty and richness of Gatsby's home overwhelmed by party-goers. There is no possible way she couldn't be in my eyes. So much excitement is happening in a sudden moment in her life, and so she can't help but be in the excitement of it all. I think that there might be a bit of fear in this statement too. Either fear or worry or nervousness. Maybe slight subdued panic? I mean, I would be experiencing all of these if an amazing, *cough* beautiful, *cough* man from my past who was enthralled with me came back and was openly near me while I was with my alcoholic, cheating, abusive lug of a husband. What sensible girl wouldn't? If they didn't hit it off, or if one wasn't happy or decent, things could be ugly, or uglier. Daisy can sense this I think, so I think that there is a hint of worry in there. I think that things are not going to settle down anytime soon for her either. Daisy is going to be 'exited so' a few more times in this book I think.
"The truth was that Jay Gatsby, of West Egg, Long Island, sprang from his Platonic conception of himself. He was a son of God—a phrase which, if it means anything, means just that—and he must be about His Father’s business, the service of a vast, vulgar, and meretricious beauty. So he invented just the sort of Jay Gatsby that a seventeen year old boy would be likely to invent, and to this conception he was faithful to the end."
I WONDER why it was at the upmost importance for Gatsby to create such an identity for himself that was parallel to being the son of God. He makes this identity to be mighty so that he can make his dreams come true with all his wealth and accomplishments. I wonder why Daisy is the absolute focus of his desires and why he continues to wish to be with her. I wonder if they will ever be together again and why Daisy stays with her husband even though he is obviously having an affair. Will Gatsby ever come out of the mindset and face his reality? How would his life be different if he actually married Daisy?
I find it very different that you posed everything you were wondering instead of just those pertaining to the quote. I really like that take on this! However I think you should talk a little bit more about the quote as well.
"Daisy began to sing with the music in a husky, rhythmic whisper, bringing out a meaning in each word that it had never had before and would never have again." ch.6
This quote makes me think of public speakers or musicians. It seems as though these people can use their voices to convey a deeper meaning to a sentence or even a single word. These people have a special talent that not many people have. They have their own way to tell the deeper meaning of a sentence through the tone of their voice or they way they say it. No one will ever be able to copy the way they bring out the meaning, as said in the quote.
For example I think of certain talented musicians who are able to show emotion through their lyrics and their music. They can make you feel so many different emotions just by saying a couple words. It truly is a special gift that not many people have.
“I’m going to fix everything just the way it was before,” he said, nodding determinedly. “She’ll see.”
I feel that Gatsby is feeling mixed emotions and he does not know how to fix them, He wants everything to be the same as they were before. I feel like he will get what he wants in the end which is Daisy. This quote shows me he will go at any cost to get Daisy. I feel in the future this will be a big conflict with him and Tom. They showed a little tension in this chapter and I feel like this will continue throughout the rest of the story.
"Daisy loved me when she married me and she loves me now."
This quote brought many mixed feelings for me. It really makes me want to sympathize with Daisy because she is trying to gather her thoughts with so many opinions being thrown at her. It makes me wish I could help her. At the same time, I am mad at both Tom and Gatsby because she needs time alone to get her thoughts straight, but she has to go home to Tom each night, or choose to go with Gatsby. There would never be any time for her to figure herself out. I wish there was a way that she could have a break from the whole event and collect her thoughts.
I love that you chose that quote. I feel bad because I think he is trying to remind himself.
"They weren’t happy, and neither of them had touched the chicken or the ale—and yet they weren’t unhappy either. There was an unmistakable air of natural intimacy about the picture and anybody would have said that they were conspiring together." (pg. 145)
This quote was the final element in the chapter that was defining of who is guilty or responsible for the dismay of others. It described how Daisy was actually almost getting along with her husband, Tom- even though according to Gatsby she was worried he would use "brutality". Throughout this entire chapter, (which was a very long one), my sympathy for characters was changing as fast as one smashes a hammer in whack-o-mole. Sometimes I felt for Gatsby, laughing at the ignorance of Tom; sometimes I felt for Tom, in is helpless ignorance exaggerated by Gatsby. By the end of the chapter, I thought for sure that I felt anger towards Gatsby, for hitting Myrtle with his car. However, Gatsby denies it, and his story is believable; but at the same time Daisy seems to be rekindling with Tom to distance herself from the man who is a vehicular murderer. What I wonder is who is the one to blame. Blame is a word that doesn't exactly fit the purpose, either, but it'll do. It most of the scenarios so far in the book, it has always been one person behind it, making it happen for their interests. After what has happened, I wonder who is the evil one, if there is such thing. Could it be Gatsby, who is a heartless bootlegger motivated by realizing his old, lost dreams? Or could it be Daisy, who is a strategically manipulative women seeking the attention of the men around her? Or is it Tom, Jordan, Nick? I guess I will have to wait and read the last two chapters/
Moved by an irresistible impulse, Gatsby turned to Tom, who had accepted the introduction as a stranger.
“I believe we’ve met somewhere before, Mr. Buchanan.”
“Oh, yes,” said Tom, gruffly polite, but obviously not remembering. “So we did. I remember very well.”
“About two weeks ago.”
“That’s right. You were with Nick here.”
“I know your wife,” continued Gatsby, almost aggressively.
“That so?” Chapter 6
This makes me think about what Mr. Buchanan is thinking. Gatsby this stranger to him, seems to recall the first time they had met very well, while on the other hand Mr. Buchanan can hardly remember it. So this makes me think that perhaps Mr. Buchanan is starting to become suspicious of Gatsby, because not only does Gatsby very clearly remember the the they first met, but he also turns the conversation over to Daisy almost immediately. And this makes me think that perhaps Gatsby can not control himself and feels as if he has to prove something to Mr. Buchanan. If Gatsby had resisted from bringing up Daisy in the conversation then it may have been a less tensioned part in the book and it would have come off as more casual. If I were Mr. Buchanan I would be conceded that Gatsby knows of me and my wife when I hardly know of him.
"...they were hysterical about things which in his overwhelming self-absorbtion he took for granted."
This makes me wonder about Gatsby's transformation. In the beginning of this chapter, Nick describes how Gatsby became rich. It does not explain, however how his person changes. This portrays, in my mind at least, a different Gatsby than the one we saw earlier in the book. Though he may still be the self-obsessed person he once was, he seemed to not be thinking about himself during the parties, but rather how his guests were. But from what we are hearing now, I wonder when he became that person, if he has actually changed at all.
“Your wife doesn’t love you,” said Gatsby. “She’s never loved you. She loves me.”
“You must be cray!” exclaimed Tom automatically.
Gatsby sprang to his feet, vivid with excitement.
“She never loved you, do you hear that?” he cried. “She only married you because I was poor and she was tired of waiting for me. It was a terrible mistake, but in her heart she never loved anyone except for me.”
I felt sympathy for Gatsby, all this time he thought that he and Daisy could have a chance but that's not how things went. It's must feel horrible to have such hopes and in just seconds realize it was all just a lie. It's interesting how Tom, who is the one who's having an affair is trying to win ownership over his wife even though he's cheating on her. He's cheating on her for a reason, why not let her go? Daisy doesn't know about Tom's secret lover, I wonder what will happened when Daisy finds out about Tom's lover. Will she go back to Gatsby? And If she were to go back would Gatsby, would he let her back into his life?
I liked how you brought up the questions at the end. While these are simple questions that we can draw from the text, we never really find an answer to why is Daisy staying with Tom even though she knows about his affairs.
This is totally what I was feeling Chelsea. I can't believe that he is cheating on her but wants ownership over her.
Gatsby just says the clod truth and I kind of agree
"He talked alot about the past, and I gathered that he wanted to recover something, some idea of perhaps, that had gone into loving Daisy. His life had been confused and disordered since then, but if he could once return to a certain starting place and go over it all slowly, he could find out what that thing was...."
I feel that anyone could kind of relate to this quote. people always think and talk about their past. In this quote he tries to remember how he fell in love with Daisy. Sometimes people forget how they came about the biggest parts of their life sometimes.
"'That huge place there?' she cried pointing.
'Do you like it'
'I love it, but I don't see how you live there all alone.'"
I feel Daisy truly can't bear the idea of being that alone. And while Gatsby assures her that he keeps it full of interesting people you can tell he would prefer her to be there with him and that she would too. I feel like they are so wrapped up in how they feel about each other that they don't even notice who the other has become.
Quote: "Daisy loved me when she married me and she loves me now."
Sympathy: I feel really bad for Daisy. She is caught in this love triangle with Tom and Gatsby. This quote made me really angry because it seems that Tom is just saying these things with no meaning behind it. He is cheating on Daisy with Myrtle so why does he care if she leaves him for Gatsby? Does he had that much pride that he is willing to not let her be with someone else,but he can?
"Can't repeat the past?" he cried incredulously. "Why of course you can!"
I think F. Scott Fitzgerald is using Jay Gatsby as a sort of figure to make the statements that he wants to make. This quote illustrates one of the more significant ones. Gatsby's seeming obsession with the past has been somewhat strange but interesting at the same time. His consist insistence upon the validity of his past, only to be exposed as a liar in the next chapter really had me thinking about why Gatsby is so obsessed with the past, instead of taking greater care of the future and present. Also, how he has been bent on repeating the past with Daisy to the point of "repeating the past" in terms of reattaining the love that they once had is truly interesting and this quote really illusteates Gatsby's mindset perfectly. He believes that by buying his mansion across from Daisy's and hosting party after party, he could one day achieve that love that him and Daisy shared so long ago before the war. I think Gatsby is in for a big and possibly negative surprise because I wholly disagree with his statement that one can repeat the past. Worse than the fact that I do not think one can repeat the past, I think is detrimental for an individuals present and future if they obsess over the pass such as the way that Jay Gatsby does. I think this will catch up with Gatsby for sure.
‘You can’t repeat the past.’
‘Can’t repeat the past?’ he cried incredulously. ‘Why of course you can!’ (Page 118).
When I first read this quote, the first though after that was a counter argument: "Then you'll repeat the mistakes as well." I really wanted Nick to say that next but he didn't... but I am sure that Gatsby will make the same mistakes that he made years ago. I also feel like everyone has wanted or tried to turn back time and redo a certain action. Lucky for me, it's mostly in video games and there is usually a "save" or "checkpoint" to go back to. If only life was like that, no not really, that feels like a horrible idea.
Well I derpped up really badly and only copied halve my quote. the other half reads
"He looked around him wildly, as if the past were lurking here in the shadow of his house, just out of reach of his hand."
This is after "Why of course you can!"
"Daisy loved me when she married me and she loves me now."
Tom says this quote in al seriousness and it makes me wonder why Tom is being so arrogant because he has and affair with Mertyle and he still is so confident that he still has the power of making Daisy love her. Is as if he is playing her and knowing that she will always love him whenever he is done with the next girl and wants to come back, but sadly Daisy doesnt know about these common affairs hes having and risking his reputation but still not carrying. This makes me wonder if the steam will ever catch up to him and hopefully bite him is the butt.
" Gatsby's notoriety ,spread about by the hundreds who had accepted his hospitality and so become authories on his past, had increased all summer until he fell."
Feel: In this chapter, Gatsby has a rumor spreading around about him, Everyone has been there with rumors or people talking behind
your back. Everyone can relate to this feelings when this happened. Even I can relate to it. This is why I chose this quote and why it can relate to me. I would like to kept this to myself with what has happened to me in the past.
"I believe that on the first night I went to Gatsby‘s house I was one of the few guests who had actually been invited"
i this quote kinda stood out from me because when i read it i was surprised that people at the party weren't really invited. So many questions were going through my head like why was nick the only one who gone an invitation?, did Gatsby want something to do with nick?, why did Gatsby invite nick?. Gatsby was smart inviting him to the party so he can get to know him so he can get to daisy. I wonder what nick was thinking when he found out he was the only one that got an invitation.
"her voice is full of money"
It is interesting how one of daisys main traits that gatsby loves, is related to her wealth. Could it be that gatsby was mainly intoxicated with the idea of daisys wealth, or perhaps how hard she is to get? daisy does not really have any positive qualitys in personality, in my opinion at least.
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