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Jake
5/1/2015 09:24:09 am
Q: "earning and spending money weakens a person".(pg.9)
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Isaac fernandez
5/1/2015 02:57:02 pm
I know from personal experience, if I work for something I take a lot more care for it than something I just get. You just appreciate it more.
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TJ
5/3/2015 05:58:29 pm
I agree, I also feel when I earn something I tend to care for it a lot more. I think this is because we have that sense of earning it rather than just being a throw away item.
Grant
5/3/2015 04:51:20 pm
I also agree with isaac and think working for something makes you really appreciate whatever it is you worked for.
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emily hayashida
5/1/2015 11:36:39 am
Quote: "Be skeptical. Think for yourself. And remember a few core principles of human behavior. Learn how to use them and you will excel in this class."
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Isaac fernandez
5/1/2015 02:58:03 pm
Yeah it is different, but I think it is to make it easy to read. Like how mrs. Clark said that it is a book to help people understand economics!
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Jenna Welsh
5/2/2015 05:28:19 am
I read ahead a bit, and it looks like the stories start to converge a bit. I agree that I think it's a way to prevent intimidation. To address your oil reserves question, I thought that whole analogy was perfect! People will find an alternative to oil when the oil reserves become rare or hard to extract from, because people only do what serves them the best.
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Christian Klosterman
5/2/2015 12:53:23 pm
It does start choppy but the story comes together as you go on!
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Chenoa Levy
5/2/2015 07:24:52 pm
I think the choppiness of the book kind of reflects conversations between people. They are not always smooth and straightforward, but can sometimes be as you mentioned a bit choppy.
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Jenna Welsh
5/1/2015 12:16:49 pm
Clark’s Corner #1:
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Isaac Fernandez
5/1/2015 02:56:02 pm
Quote: "On a street corner in Washington D.C., the metro's escalator coughs up a steady stream of workers who scurry under the looming dome of the capitol."
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Jenna Welsh
5/2/2015 05:26:04 am
I agree! I feel like the majority of Americans think there are only one or two life "templates" to choose from. To answer your question, I think the alternative is not to live your life just trying to make money; it is to live your live to better your community/world, and perhaps even save it from the people who are only concerned about money.
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Christian Klosterman
5/2/2015 12:52:33 pm
Yeah I'm with you on this one, it does seem like the alternative template is to focus on the community and bettering the world instead of focusing on yourself, but I feel like this attitude of selflessness is becoming more and more scarce throughout the world.
Kaeli Leoni
5/2/2015 12:34:46 pm
I totally agree with what you mean. It really seems like there is only a couple definitions of success and if you don't fall into their categories people feel as if they aren't successful. I think people are too concerned with the concept of money, and forgetting that concept would be the only way to create some type of alternative to the American lifestyle.
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Eddie
5/2/2015 04:52:40 pm
It's diffcult to separate from money. Money opens the doors to opportunities to do both good and bad. To change your lifestyle your going to need money.
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Eamonn M.
5/2/2015 11:44:34 am
Quote:
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Eddie
5/2/2015 04:48:42 pm
It's simple, thug life (puts shades on). Nah but people do it for ego, and also depends on what is recived once you have put yourself in danger. So it is mainly input and output. If I do this will I get this .
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Mikayla
5/3/2015 01:45:18 am
Risk and reward. The higher the risk, the greater the reward. Probably, we also like the feeling of adrenaline.
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Noah Legier
5/2/2015 12:18:04 pm
"But the more you limit peoples choices even in the name of helping them, the more responsibility you take away from them"
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Noah again
5/2/2015 12:27:32 pm
My question is why does the economics teacher seem blatantly smarter than the language arts teacher.
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Mikayla
5/3/2015 01:46:34 am
Good question. I think it's because the language arts teacher has spent too much time reading whimsical ideas about life, and has nothing to say when confronted with facts.
Kaeli Leoni
5/2/2015 12:30:02 pm
I agree, parents control so much of what children do that when we grow up and go to college we might not be used to that kind of responsibility. If we had the responsibility now, maybe the lines wouldn't be as blurred.
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Alexis Miranda
5/2/2015 04:01:50 pm
I feel the same way you do, we all got to start realizing that responsibility is a key thing to have as an adult.
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Kaeli Leoni
5/2/2015 12:26:00 pm
Quote: If he's successful, your brother has inconvenienced the beggar and had no nutritional impact. If the beggar can't sell the can, he drinks it, takes the money he would have spent on lunch and uses it to buy crack or liquor. So did you well-intentioned brother participate in the beggar's habit, or are his hands clean?
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Tristan Elghoroury
5/3/2015 02:05:21 am
I think that if people have an open mind and care for the well-being of others, truly, then they will not be blinded by their own wants and needs and see to it that others are helped.
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Christian Klosterman
5/2/2015 12:48:20 pm
"Well, you can 'get' money in lots of ways besides earning it. Earning money sounds honest and fair. Getting it sounds a little bit, I don't know, grubby. Like stealing. Or tricking somebody out of their money."
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Hunter
5/2/2015 01:44:57 pm
I think that theres a connection in the cycle of wealth, how people obtain money or even spend money on resources.
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Noah Legier
5/2/2015 03:16:32 pm
When you think about it prices are just materialistic ratings on objects.
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TJ
5/3/2015 05:59:46 pm
Be that as it may they still play an important role in making the world work. People that say the world would be so much better without money typically haven't thought that comment through.
Camila antonorsi
5/2/2015 01:41:34 pm
"Lets play a game" he said, his eyes full of mischief. "The first person who gets this dollar bill can have it."
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Hunter
5/2/2015 01:47:53 pm
I think people get easily confused, a lot of the confusion could translated into craziness.
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I believe it is because he greatly understands economics. Whereas the students don't understand it(hence taking the class) and his way of explaining is not direct but that he wants you to think. This is where the confusion and "Craziness" comes from, when his students don't understand because he is making his students think.
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Matt Rose
5/3/2015 01:27:44 pm
Sam teaches in a very different way, and most of these kids probably have never had a teacher that engages them in such lessons. It must be completely new to play a quick game of running and grabbing money so it makes sense to me why they think he is crazy, I believe he is crazy to.
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Hunter Birk
5/2/2015 01:43:03 pm
Quote: " I don't mean living richly in the sense of having a lot of money. I mean fully expressing what makes us human."
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Alexis Miranda
5/2/2015 03:58:39 pm
Yeah me too, I also didnt see the connection during their conversation about safety. My guess is that they probably use it as way of explaining things better.
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Piper Tompkins
5/3/2015 02:16:32 pm
I wasn't exactly sure on the connection either, the farthest I got was that it is the principle of responsibility and the ability to make your own decisions depending on what you want in life.
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Morgan King
5/21/2015 04:28:17 am
I have to agree it is interesting that different people have different opinions than what one would think. I would have expected Sam, the one with the economics degree, to only care about the finances. I think that some of the laws that you listed relate to money, because everything has a price and a cost, whether it actually deals with physical money.
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Kayla Feather
5/2/2015 02:10:07 pm
Quote: " Part of the essence of being human is making choices."(Page 29)
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Eddie
5/2/2015 04:45:25 pm
Our choices reflect who we are, so we make the choices.
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Chenoa Levy
5/2/2015 07:21:20 pm
The choices we make are relative to our character and past experiences, so I think it's us who makes the choices and not the other way around
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Hesham Hamed
5/31/2015 09:23:50 am
Choices do reflect who we are, but choices in life can make a person not what they originally where. Look at a homeless man that lost everything to drugs but was a loving and caring person, he made bad choices but then those choices made him into a homeless person.
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Chenoa Levy
5/2/2015 03:16:30 pm
"A person who gives V-8 juice instead of money is being charitable in a selfish way."
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Abby Elliott
5/3/2015 06:21:58 am
That is a very profound question (I learned that word in the book)!! I think the author is probably trying to show the ways literature and Economics are connected and also how they are different. I am not quite sure if that is correct, but very soon we should find out.
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Alexis Miranda
5/2/2015 03:55:20 pm
"Air bags or seat belts arent the only way to keep a kid safe in a car. There are other, cheaper ways. You can drive more slowly. You can drive less often. You can postpone travel when it rains. Its better to give the parents the choice than to force them to create safety in a particular way."
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Eddie
5/2/2015 04:54:39 pm
Sam probably seems smarter because this is a topic he knows about.
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Justin R.
5/3/2015 02:50:17 pm
Yes^, this is a topic that Sam is passionate about and with all of his life experiences I would expect him to have a better advantage in these conversations.
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Eddie Herrera
5/2/2015 04:42:20 pm
Quote " Earning and spending money weakens a person"
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Eddie
5/2/2015 04:43:45 pm
Why do you think people often forget where they come from when given money? Also is there something someone can do to help the people who are still in impoverished areas?
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Eddie
5/2/2015 04:58:34 pm
Why do teachers teach us in order to earn money but never teach us how to manage the money? I think that is a reason to why it's and english teacher and economics teacher.
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Dylan L
5/3/2015 05:27:52 pm
Eddie- I had a similar response as you did. However, I think that this quite should read a little bit more like: "Earning and spending money CORRODES a person." I think that the word uses a bit more meaning and can make a person think a little bit more. What do you think?
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Mikayla Kricfalusi
5/3/2015 01:42:54 am
Quote:"I doubt the beggar cares about getting his minimum daily requirement of vitamins. His life stinks. He wants to get high. He tries to sell the V-8 juice on the street. If he's successful, your brother has inconvenienced the beggar and had no nutritional impact...So did your well-intentioned brother participate in the beggar's habit, or are his hands clean?"
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Tristan Elghoroury
5/3/2015 02:09:27 am
Sam is very different and complex to understand. I think that that is why he is considered weird by many and somewhat a recluse. That is one of his 'flaws.
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Tristan Elghoroury
5/3/2015 02:03:10 am
"Years before the last drop of oil is found and extracted, we'll walk away from oil as an energy source."
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Abby Elliott
5/3/2015 06:29:05 am
I think we should apply this lesson to any kind of problem we face. If we just stop and think for a moment, we can find someway to think out side of the box- finding a trick behind it. Usually a problem can be fixed by multiple ways.
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Piper Tompkins
5/3/2015 02:25:09 pm
I think we can apply this to a lot of things, like maybe the live span of the sun. By the time the sun goes out, we might not even be living on earth anymore. We will have probably found another planet to live on instead.
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Abby Elliott
5/3/2015 06:15:51 am
Quote: "My dad used to say 'danger and delight grow on the same stalk." (Page 28)
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Nicole matteson
5/3/2015 04:37:28 pm
I think opportunity grows on the same stalk as sadness. With that feeling of sadness, a person will grow stronger and learn from the experience. With that new found knowledge they could inspire and teach others as well as sympathize with more honesty and understanding. Your life could be a warning or an example for someone else! It's all in the mindset!
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Quote: "Money on the table is a great motivator."
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Matt Rose
5/3/2015 01:36:20 pm
I don't think that lesson had to do much with money but more of how peoples' wants corrupt them. Virtual money would have almost the same effect on people.
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Jackson Sjogren
5/3/2015 02:19:20 pm
I don't think so because it isn't tangible. It's hard to put a value on something if you can't even truly hold it in your hands.
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Hesham Hamed
5/31/2015 09:19:44 am
I think that if people see something that they can touch in front of them it would be a bigger motivator. Imagine having bitcoin, you cant see it but its worth allot, but the equal amount is in cash. Which would motivate the common person more; the tangible item cash.
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Srdja
5/3/2015 09:46:53 am
"Materialism corrupts us"
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Eli Murguia
5/3/2015 11:30:19 am
As Sam said about the oil industry, it’s all about self-interest. Even though we might believe that yes, education should be available to everyone, there will always be people working out the details of how much will this cost? How much will I benefit from voluntarily pouring my energy, my time, and my resources into a problem that has been reoccurring since probably the eve of existence? And most importantly will it be worth it? That last question alone could be answered in so many different ways and from so many different perspectives it’s crazy to think about. Not only that but you could also think logistically, economically, and physically about how we as humans can solve the issue of pricey education.
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Eli Murguia
5/3/2015 11:13:36 am
“‘But why does a safer world make us less human?’ ‘Part of the essence of being human is making life choices . It’s anticipating the future and being aware of our actions. If you take the risk out of the future, you take away the choice and the challenge of grappling with the risk and reward. Children don’t anticipate the future very well, so we treat children differently from adults. But when we start treating adults like children, we start taking away the essential human challenge of coping with uncertainty and making decisions.’” (Roberts 29-30)
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Alexis Habib
5/3/2015 03:03:37 pm
You are right! There are so many ways to approach an issue, so many different perspectives to consider, that even trying to list them all is mind boggling.
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Izzy Avedisian
5/3/2015 12:06:04 pm
"His perspective on the world turned a wait for a subway train into an intellectual tennis match. And it always seemed to be his serve." (pg.25)
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Alexis Habib
5/3/2015 03:01:01 pm
You post makes me wonder how much of our population views the world like Laura, and how much of it like Sam?
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Izzy Avedisian
5/3/2015 12:07:11 pm
"His perspective on the world turned a wait for a subway train into an intellectual tennis match. And it always seemed to be his serve." (pg.25)
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Matt Rose
5/3/2015 01:21:16 pm
"Materialism corrupts us" page 10
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Matt Rose
5/3/2015 01:24:46 pm
Q: Do you think there are people who are not corrupted by items, or does everyone have this sort of want?
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Jackson Sjogren
5/3/2015 02:17:57 pm
It seems that America specifically is corrupted by the constant need for more and more items, however in other places around the world they have different beliefs. For instance Denmark is considered one of the happiest places in the world because they are content with what they have.
Jackson Sjogren
5/3/2015 02:14:10 pm
Q: "How could a man reward greed, yet honor a movie dedicated to the principle of people before profit?"
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Piper Tompkins
5/3/2015 02:31:25 pm
Quote: Part of the essence of being human is making choices.
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Piper Tompkins
5/3/2015 02:35:45 pm
*Extension of commentary:
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Justin Reyes
5/3/2015 02:47:33 pm
Quote: " I don't mean living richly in the sense of having a lot of money. I mean fully expressing what makes us human."
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Nicole matteson
5/3/2015 04:43:04 pm
Happiness is relative and could also be seen as a choice. Many people expect themselves to instantly become happy from something, but it's all in the mindset. It's hard to chose to be happy when something is hard, but it is achievable. And what I mean by happiness being relative is that one person could have a different source of happiness than another's. It's kinda like ethnocentrism because people expect one thing to make everyone happ, but it doesn't always. So to answer your question, personally it's a benefit to have my success help someone else but it doesn't necessarily mean it makes everyone happier.
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Alexis Habib
5/3/2015 02:56:38 pm
"Money on the table is a great motivator"
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Alexis Habib
5/3/2015 02:58:42 pm
Q: Will there ever be a point in the future that our society puts money on the back-burner so to say, so that we may focus on relationships with others and experiencing the world around us?
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Emily Dingman
5/3/2015 03:05:52 pm
Q: "Danger and delight grow on the same stalk" p28
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Jack Campbell
5/3/2015 03:12:03 pm
Quote: "I think it was a trick question"
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Grant
5/3/2015 04:42:30 pm
I totally agree with you
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Hesham Hamed
5/3/2015 03:57:54 pm
" Never underestimate the power of self interest"
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Kevin Stiemke
5/4/2015 02:37:15 am
I agree Self Interest can really drive people to achieve their goals.
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Grant Gagnard
5/3/2015 04:29:15 pm
"Ten seconds!"
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Dylan L
5/3/2015 05:30:05 pm
Grant- I agree with you in what it represents. I think that people just need to slow down sometimes and take things a bit more leisurely.
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Nicole Matteson
5/3/2015 04:31:32 pm
"But are you comfortable knowing people will often make mistakes?"
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Sarah Lockhart
5/3/2015 05:53:17 pm
In response to your question, I think that boundaries can only become enticing to break once you get accustomed to it. I really hate breaking rules, it makes me nervous and uncomfortable most of the time, but if I had broken rules to got what I wanted when I was younger then I would be fine with breaking nearly any rule now.
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Kevin Stiemke
5/4/2015 02:36:07 am
Sometimes people need to learn life lessons that teach them to do different.
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Morgan King
5/21/2015 04:32:43 am
I think that rules and boundaries are set in place to prevent people from doing anything for themselves. It will often prevent people from actually thinking about how and why the rules affect them, and often other people will be motivated to find a loophole. Therefore, not helping anyone get anywhere further in life.
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Dylan L
5/3/2015 05:25:28 pm
"She wanted to do her part in repairing the world."
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Sarah Lockhart
5/3/2015 05:48:44 pm
Very intriguing question! I would choose to repair greed because a lot of things in this world could be repaired from that if people weren't greedy with money, land, and other resources, so there would be plenty to go around.
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Sarah Lockhart
5/3/2015 05:41:22 pm
"The safest car is no car at all. That's the only way to guarantee that you don't get into a car accident."
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TJ Accardi
5/3/2015 05:46:30 pm
"Be skeptical. Think for yourself. And remember a few core principals of human behavior."
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Allison Hopkins
5/4/2015 12:24:37 am
Quote: "His car did not have an air bag. He said that at the time he was looking for a car, only Chrysler and Mercedes offers air bags as an option and he didn't like them. Here was a guy who chose style over safety. But he still wanted to deny that choice to others."
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Chandler Gaines
5/4/2015 01:24:06 am
'The escalator from the metro brings scurrying workers from the capitol"
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Kevin Stiemke
5/4/2015 02:34:03 am
Q: “He was in favor of mandatory air bags for the same reason that you’re in favor of seat belts. He told me they save lives. But they’re expensive, I reminded him. Perhaps to some people their cost is not worth the safety.”
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Nicole King
5/4/2015 08:17:48 am
"The safest car is no car at all. That's the only way to guarantee that you don't get into a car accident."
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Nathan Tomczak
5/4/2015 03:18:17 pm
here is a great quote " I don't mean living richly in the sense of having a lot of money. I mean fully expressing what makes us human."
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Jake Feess
5/5/2015 08:14:31 am
Q: "Miss Hathaway. Please bring me the magic fingers"(pg. 85)
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Morgan King
5/21/2015 05:18:59 am
Quote: "There is no right or wrong answer. Just the best you can and we'll talk about it."
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