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Jenna Welsh
5/7/2015 10:49:59 am
Quote: “They’re saying that their Dad is a traitor.”
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Lucas LeVieux
5/7/2015 11:35:22 am
I was wondering that too! Sam never really talks about his position on unions. I have a feeling he's supportive of unions, because that means the workers are able to work together to their mutual benefit; and is a natural part of the free market. But, I suppose it could be either way; he might defend that if they wanted higher pay, the workers should work for a different company or field.
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Christian Klosterman
5/7/2015 01:26:59 pm
Yeah, Sam never really says his opinion on that. I'm guessing he would be on the side that would be the most economically beneficial, and in this case, against strikebreaking.
Mikayla Kricfalusi
5/7/2015 01:31:21 pm
I feel that Sam believes in a free marketplace, where strikebreakers are merely a catalyst for something else. That's a difficult question though. I also think that Sam would defend strikebreakers because they keep business moving.
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Shea Saulino
5/7/2015 03:18:09 pm
What do you believe strikebreakers are a catalyst for? I understand where you are going, but I am curious as to if there is more depth into that analysis.
Mikayla Kricfalusi
5/7/2015 01:12:25 pm
Quote: "Why hadn't Sam ever noticed how beautiful she was? Her face had a freshness and a vitality that made the rest of the people in the room look flat by comparison."
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Kaeli Leoni
5/7/2015 01:34:48 pm
I think that the "fights" Laura and Sam have are more of just her trying to push Sam's thinking so she can understand where he is coming from. Most of the time she isn't really strongly fighting her own opinion, it's more of her poking holes in his argument and trying to see his perspective on things.
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Christian Klosterman
5/7/2015 01:40:43 pm
From my point of view, it doesn't really seem like Laura is ever debating or fighting, but it is more of a lesson that Sam is teaching her.
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Jenna Welsh
5/7/2015 03:11:32 pm
I agree; this woman obviously did not go to Yale. No, I do not think she is capable of winning a debate, because the author does not think the English teachers are rational.
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Tristan Elghoroury
5/7/2015 03:40:24 pm
I think that throughout the story, Laura will learn more about politics and economics from Sam. She might combine that knowledge with what she knows about history, and then be able to beat Sam in a debate about a wide range of topics!
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Christian Klosterman
5/7/2015 01:23:34 pm
"Very impressive sound to it. Let's see--the corporation in the twenty-first century has many responsibilities, to its community, to society at large, and to mankind. Grand enough? Should I add the universe as well? Truth be told, I have one and only one responsibility"-here Krauss pauses-"and that is to make money"
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Kaeli Leoni
5/7/2015 01:32:19 pm
I'm not exactly sure if it is possible. I can't really think of an example, however Sam discussed earlier in the book how if someone is too focused on the well being of their workers, the business will fail. Money needs to be supplied to a number of places and if too much of it goes to the workers or outside organizations, the business will be unable to support itself and will fail.
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Mikayla Kricfalusi
5/7/2015 01:34:10 pm
Sam would argue that the desire to be economically successful naturally leads people to be morally successful.
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Eddie
5/7/2015 02:49:26 pm
It's all situational, for the person perhaps did things that are morally wrong to achieve currency. Or the person is morally successful but is broke. It depends on the person, but I believe that it is possible .
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Alexis Miranda
5/7/2015 04:38:52 pm
Yes I agree with Eddie. It does depend on the person. Many people who are morally successful have different ways of solving their problems.
jackson sjogren
5/9/2015 01:18:36 pm
yes of course their is! Their are plenty of men and women that worked hard to get to the point they are today, and they did it with out ruining lives.
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Kaeli Leoni
5/7/2015 01:58:53 pm
Quote: "But if the CEO donates the corporation's money to the system phony because he likes schmoozing with musicians or to a homeless shelter because he fears political pressure and the implicit threat of regulation from people like you, then it's a different matter."
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Christian Klosterman
5/7/2015 02:02:15 pm
I would still think of it as a good deed, even if their motives are for publicity. Obviously it is a corrupted way of doing things, but it still is helping out someone or something that needs it.
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Eddie
5/7/2015 02:54:36 pm
No because most companies do this to avoid getting hurt by taxes. As well as for publicity, which then company will be able to generate more funds then the funds that they donated. Unless the company stays intact with whomever that they are donating to and are committed with them then yes the deed is good.
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Hunter Birk
5/7/2015 02:55:01 pm
I think regardless of motives donating money is a good dead and deserves reconciliation. Alot of times people get caught up in motives and question them but if a good dead is getting done or a job is being completed than why do motives matter?
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Jenna Welsh
5/7/2015 03:15:15 pm
Nice philosophical question! I think that though the end result of a deed like that is "good", karmically, no, the deed itself is not good because it was completed out of selfishness.
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Chenoa Levy
5/8/2015 12:58:47 am
I think the deed itself is no longer good, as there were ulterior motives, however, even if done under the guise of goodness it still benefits others.
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chloe rice
5/7/2015 02:01:07 pm
Quote: "You seem to specialize in giving away money."
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Hunter Birk
5/7/2015 02:53:35 pm
Do you think after reading some of the book there is space for humanity in the world of economics?
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Jack Campbell
5/7/2015 03:26:06 pm
I like what you said about how giving away money has less to do with economics and more to do with the emotional side of things, but I think it can have ties to both.
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5/7/2015 03:38:19 pm
Not a question?
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Eddie Herrera
5/7/2015 02:44:20 pm
"Responsibility is a funny word" said Sam "It conveys a sense of obligation, which in turn conveys a sense of debt, of owing something."
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Shea Saulino
5/7/2015 03:16:51 pm
That is a really interesting question! I don't know the answer to it, but I am curious as to what other people have to say. Do you think that Sam's reaction was over the top or was Andrew instigating an attack on Sam?
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Alexis Miranda
5/7/2015 04:32:31 pm
I believe Andrew was trying to get Sam's strong opinions out of him. From what he had heard about him from Laura.
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Allison Hopkins
5/8/2015 01:42:10 am
I really like how you took the quote and applied it to owning a cat, in this book we are always thinking of economics and corporations but you were able to take this quote and make it more relatable.
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Hunter Birk
5/7/2015 02:51:00 pm
Quote: " You would justify your actions with the consolations that your making the world a better place. In your mind, people don't know how to spend there money wisely."
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Tristan Elghoroury
5/7/2015 03:28:08 pm
yea that is a really good question. They have to balance the two and I think that a lot of CEO's go with benefitting the stockholders more over the employees that they don't have as much contact with.
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Shea Saulino
5/7/2015 03:15:29 pm
Quote: " 'Opportunity for Appeal' sounded ominous…"
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Sarah Lockhart
5/7/2015 03:54:36 pm
Shea this is deep as oil!!! You got so much out of Sam and Laura's conversation that I didn't see at all. And I love your question, I totally see love being the iambic pentameter to our lives; giving it direction and power.
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Allison Hopkins
5/8/2015 01:48:25 am
Shea, I don't have an answer to your question but I love everything you said. I never saw all of what you connected and it is amazing. I love the way you took her just seeing the envelope and connected it to the conversation they had and foreshadowing.
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"Laura tells me you don't believe in government regulation of corporations. Says your a big fan of unrestrained capitalism."
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Jack Campbell
5/7/2015 03:25:00 pm
This quote was close in context to mine, and I share the same question about unrestrained capitalism
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Grant Gagnard
5/7/2015 03:32:46 pm
I wonder what the world would look like with unrestrained capitalism
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Kevin Stiemke
5/8/2015 05:53:40 am
I agree I wonder what this would look like too.
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Jack Campbell
5/7/2015 03:24:08 pm
Quote: "after all" continued sam "under capitalism, man oppresses man...but under socialism, it the other way around"
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Grant Gagnard
5/7/2015 03:32:01 pm
I like this quote to, I wonder how close capitalism and socialism really are
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TJ Accardi
5/7/2015 04:16:44 pm
I also thought this was an interesting way of talking about socialism and capitalism. I think it really shows how there are flaws to any system and it's about finding the system with the most manageable flaws.
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Morgan King
5/21/2015 04:50:05 am
It is interesting that you chose to illustrate that there is no contrast between the two systems, though many people would argue otherwise. I am a little confused by your question, it seems the quote is pretty straightforward, and that most people would use humor as a distraction from the truth.
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Grant Gagnard
5/7/2015 03:30:46 pm
"In Indonesia 30¢ an hour is a living wage"
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Sarah Lockhart
5/7/2015 03:57:19 pm
Your question is a difficult one, but I think that it's partially for their bottom line and partially because in a twisted way they are helping them by employing them (though how ethic the employment is is very questionable).
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Emily Hayashida
5/10/2015 09:13:09 am
Well even if they are employing the people, it doesn't mean that they are being fair. I personally belive that all it comes down to is money and by paying the workers that little and seeling their products for much more their profit margins are much larger creating more assets for the company.
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Tristan Elghoroury
5/7/2015 03:37:39 pm
"But Sam saw right away that he didn't fit in"
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TJ Accardi
5/7/2015 04:15:16 pm
I think that Laura has grown to like him since she went as far as inviting him to a family dinner party. It seemed very fast though and there wasn't much to bond over.
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Nicole Matteson
5/7/2015 04:21:57 pm
I think they like to challenge each other, and these challenges allow Laura to see there is more to him than meets the eye. Kinda cheesy but its true! A person can't be all good or all bad, they have a mix, so I think that applies to economists too and with Laura teaching literature, she had to realize he was not all economist-y
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Sarah Lockhart
5/7/2015 03:44:10 pm
"They danced in the street and lined up for the opportunity to be 'exploited.' The tragedy isn't that they earn 30 cents an hour. The tragedy is that 30 cents an hour is their best alternative."
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Nicole Matteson
5/7/2015 04:24:55 pm
All those stores with really cheap clothes always make me wonder why they are so cheap, and many times its because they are made by underpaid workers in foregin countries :( I try to do my part by avoiding those shops when I can so that there is less of a demand on those workers, but I don't know exactly what will help them. They definitely need to be brought to light and have people go over there and talk to them to understand what they need versus just assuming.
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Lucas LeVieux
5/8/2015 05:31:54 am
Isn't the point, though, that if you buy more of the clothing you will be supporting the poor workers in foreign countries?
emily hayashida
5/10/2015 09:10:58 am
I don't belive so, because if you continue to support the moguls who run these vast companies that pay employees so little, they will assume that it is ok and the consumers are fine with the way the products are produced.
TJ Accardi
5/7/2015 04:12:28 pm
"Laura tells me you don't believe in government regulation of corporations. Says your a big fan of unrestrained capitalism."
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Dylan L
5/8/2015 03:48:23 pm
I'm not sure he was purposefully trying to insult Sam's opinion. At that point in the argument, I think Sam was "winning" and Andrew knew it. So Andrew became defensive, and found it easy to insult Sam's opinions because they were so drastically different from his own.
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Nicole Matteson
5/7/2015 04:18:01 pm
"Sam wanted to tell her how the words filled her heart, but he was afraid to break the spell she had cast. Laura also felt it. It made her uncomfortable. What was she doing using these words from a century ago to charm this peculiar python from the world of economics?"
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Srdja
5/7/2015 04:58:15 pm
I think that without feeling of fear world and civilization would be destroyed. I think fear is that something that is stoping us to do some bad things but on the other hand it is catalizator for many good things that happen in this world (inventions, ect)
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Chenoa Levy
5/8/2015 01:05:34 am
I don't think we would have evolved far as a society. Though we would have a much less tragic history, fear has been a driving factor in many historical events that shapes our world.
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Alexis Miranda
5/7/2015 04:22:39 pm
"Much of the poem has a melancholy tone. But Tennyson ends it on a different note. The poem is written in the first person. Ulysses is talking. He wonders whether he might gather his mariners for one last voyage of courage."
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Srdja
5/7/2015 04:55:29 pm
I think book will reveal all secrets of their relationship.
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Justin Reyes
5/10/2015 03:21:43 pm
I agree, we will see it eventually
Srdja
5/7/2015 04:54:51 pm
In Indonesia 30 cents an hour is a living wage.
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Chenoa Levy
5/8/2015 12:55:32 am
"This is where most of our workers live."
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Justin R
5/10/2015 03:25:19 pm
Very interesting question! The way that the
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Ryan Cormack
5/8/2015 12:59:28 am
Q: You would treat adults like children. you would ban cigarettes if you could.
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Kevin Stiemke
5/8/2015 05:57:14 am
I believe that if things that were considered bad were immediately outlawed then people wouldn't have as much fun, because everyone has different personalities.
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Allison Hopkins
5/8/2015 01:34:34 am
Quote: "Do you think when he announcement was made that a factory was coming and that jobs would be available, people said, no, keep it away from here? They danced in the street and lined up for the opportunity to be 'exploited.' "
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Alexis Habib
5/10/2015 12:41:41 pm
I wonder how many people became unemployed because of the factory move and how many people gained a job, respectively.
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Eamonn M.
5/8/2015 01:45:00 am
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Jackson Sjogren
5/9/2015 01:22:25 pm
Well most companies have the money to give back to their community where as normal men and women don't all have giant sums of money.
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Kevin Stiemke
5/8/2015 05:52:35 am
Quote: "In Indonesia 30 cents an hour is a living wage."
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Dylan L
5/8/2015 03:46:43 pm
Well if the MW was 30 cents, things would be drastically different. But like how Sam mentioned, the MW is that low because that's all they need there. In America, we need more things and have a lot of other priorities and more regulations, etc that pretty much make it impossible to get a MW that low (unless we had some incredible deflation in currency).
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Dylan L
5/8/2015 03:44:23 pm
"When he got home, he paced around the apartment, furious at himself for what he had done. How could he have let himself be provoked? What was he thinking?"
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Piper Tompkins
5/11/2015 09:04:07 am
I think it will greatly effect the relationship, but not for the good or the bad. It will just change some aspects.
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Camila Antonorsi
5/9/2015 01:51:50 am
"In Indonesia 30 cents an hour is a living wage."
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Emily Dingman
5/9/2015 01:56:04 am
Q: This man is a snake
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jackson sjogren
5/9/2015 01:16:46 pm
Q: "In Indonesia 30 cents an hour is a living wage."
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Morgan King
5/21/2015 04:54:04 am
I think many that while many people recognize the extreme difference, its hard for them to act on it, because it would mean giving something up for themselves so that others can be more like them. Personally I would ignore the "issue" because 30 cents is a living wage in that country, here it is not. If people are able to get by, than that is just how their currency functions.
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Kayla Feather
5/10/2015 02:47:10 am
Quote: "It's easy to do good with other people's money"(Page 114).
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Eli Murguia
5/10/2015 08:54:24 am
“‘This man is a snake,’ Andrew said, looking at his sister. He turned to Sam. ‘You’re dangerous. You justify corporate greed in the name of working people…. You defend the Charles Krausses of the world and all who would make money on the backs of others. And I resent you poisoning my sister with your heartless view of the world.’” (Roberts 118)
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Emily Hayashida
5/10/2015 09:08:28 am
Quote: "This is where most of our workers live."
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Alexis Habib
5/10/2015 12:39:30 pm
Your question reminded me of that one movie that we watched in Spanish, about the group of 4 guys trying to live off of one dollar a day
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Nicole King
5/10/2015 10:31:49 am
But sam saw right away that he didn't fit in."
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Mikey Saunders
5/10/2015 11:25:50 am
Q: "You seem to specialize in giving away money."
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Hesham Hamed
6/8/2015 08:05:24 am
People need money in order to have what they want and need so everyone that wants to live a life to whatever their standards are need that money in order to feel fulfilled.
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Alexis Habib
5/10/2015 12:34:37 pm
"Very impressive sound to it. Let's see--the corporation in the twenty-first century has many responsibilities, to it's community, to society at large, and to mankind. Grand enough? Shall I add the universe as well? Truth be told, I have one and only one responsibility, and that is to make money."
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Piper Tompkins
5/11/2015 09:05:26 am
What makes a good antagonist is, in my opinion, a person virtue that is seeded throughout the novel or show.
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Justin Reyes
5/10/2015 03:23:34 pm
Quote: "You would justify your actions with the consolations that you're making the world a better place. In your mind, people don't know how to spend their money wisely."
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Piper Tompkins
5/11/2015 01:12:25 am
Q: “‘What's wrong with that? You’re just proving my point that you don’t care about people. Who cares what a corporation gives? If the goal is more art or a homeless shelter or a program for crack-cocaine babies, what difference does it make? My goal is to make the world a better place’ ‘But it’s not your money’”
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Noah Parr
5/11/2015 01:54:52 pm
Q: "You seem to specialize in giving away money."
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Hesham Hamed
6/8/2015 08:01:28 am
If you look at grocery stores and the amount of food that they throw away its ridiculous and when an employee takes some to donate they get fired. Its the same concept as money, people would rather see it go away to nothing than to someone because of greed.
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Morgan King
5/21/2015 05:37:29 am
Quote: "What's really important is having enough fire in the belly to even consider getting into the arena at all."
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Hesham Hamed
6/4/2015 09:01:51 am
Q": "In Indonesia 30¢ an hour is a living wage"
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