Q: A human heart has its reasons that reason can not know.
C: The end of the book made me as sad as the students in his class room, I felt I my self had been taught by Sam and to see him be pushed away from his job like he was, was hard to read. However her persevered and the book had a lovely ending, The song was adorable and the emotions were very present. This quote I enjoyed a lot, I feel as if human heart has its own brain in a way, it fallows what makes it beat the fastest and strives to be loving. It seems off and like a fairy tale way of thinking but my heart has always been stronger then my mind. I got by my emotions even when I can find why I did, I get in trouble a lot because of it but in other ways I do amazing and selfless things with it. The heart is a powerful tool that we should all be listening to more often.
Q: How many of us still listen to our hearts?
Depends on the situation, in some cases it has to mind over matter. Where you have to listen to your mind rather than your heart. Like when hired to kill someone, you have to do it and forget what the heart may want to tell.
It all depends on the situation like Eddie said. It varies, but listening to your heart or emotions all the time will eventually lead into some very bad decisions.
I think every good decision has to be made based on a combination of emotion (or heart) and logic (or brain). Otherwise, we make decisions that are completely irrational, or decisions with no regard to how they may affect others.
I agree with Jenna I think that it's a combination of your heart and mind, because usually to get a good grade on something or to be good at something you have to put some kind of heart into.
I think that many people wish they could, but have forgotten how to because of something they went through or learned.
Quote: "The real choice is between a static and a dynamic world. A world where people are encouraged to be content with what they have, and a world where people are encouraged to dream of what might be."
Commentary: I chose this quote because it honestly really opened my eyes towards how progress is made. With the examples of the 1950's factories going out of business, I saw how right Sam was in that if they hadn't gone out of business, where would we be now? Would we
still be working at factories? Or would it have pushed us to think of something new, like developments in technology? This quote helps explain in a way how everything happens for a reason. Yes, the people in the TV show lost their jobs, but that could spark a new potentially
brighter future for them or their family. They maybe are now pushed to see opportunities that they overlooked and because of it they could even change the world depending on what they decide on doing. I really liked this quote and I think it is a philosophy many people should
Question: Where would we be if those companies from the past had stayed in business?
I agree with you; I think we would be significantly behind technologically, and our manufacturing processes would probably be less efficient because there would be precedent for that.
I think there wouldn't be as much focus on progressing in technology since those 1950's factories would still be taking up space and money that could have went towards other things
Q: A human heart has its reasons and those reason's can not know.
C: I felt that this quote was so powerful I think that a lot of us make choices because of that excitement we sometimes get and we don;t always think as clearly when it involves our hearts other than our brains. I thought it was sad to see Sam leave his job and push it away but I think that if he didn't he wouldn't have enjoyed what else is out there for him. Although it was sad I think that it was a better choice. I think as human beings we always choose to go with our hearts even when it can go bad, but I think thats why we make progress everyday.
Q: If we always chose to think about every little thing could it back fire and be worse than following our hearts?
Depends on the situation for example when giving a presentation and you begin to think about every little thing or possibility, it will make you nervous but if you go by heart and forget the rest then you will do pro.
Yes I think that it can. Sometimes we humans overthink things and just make our life more comlpicated.
I think that is apart of life, just going with some things.
I don't think it can, but I guess everything varies. Overthinking can be bad, but it can also help in ultimately making the right choices in life.
" I love that you're a fish swimming upstream. I was hoping you'd swim with the tide and act like anybody else would and fight for your job"
I chose this quote because it is realistic when it comes to success. Most of people aim for success disregarding the people they may hurt. In this case Sam is leaving rather than standing his ground and staying with the people that care for him and he cares for. Often times we do the same with out our knowing.
Why did Sam not fight and stay with his loved ones.
Because he finished his role in that school Just like Mr. Hensley.
He felt like he was done whith that school and he had moved on in life and that is what he chose to do. I agree like Srdja, like Mr.Hensley.
" We we're in a wilderness. Or so we thought."
This sums up everything Sam has been trying to teach and has taught his class. He told his class on the first day of school about his pistachio incentive to get people to participate. He then on the last day of school told a story about Elk at the yellowstone national park about how it can relate to economics. How a complex system like the Economy cannot be messed with at all or very little because our intentions might be good , but can ultimately effect people in the opposite manner.
Why hasn't everyone excepted that the economy isn't perfect, and realize that with all the "quick fixes" lead to bigger problems down the road?
Haha because someone always has something bad to say.
Because when one person is suffering from the economy, another person is thriving.
Becuase the people who run this system are the most powerful, so they see no need to change the economy since they are thriving off it so much.
It's because people like to avoid the issues that we see in the economy, they try to use quick fixes to avoid them
" So our hat's off to Sam Gordon..."
This part of the book really surprised me! I thought that nobody really liked him and the way he taught! Reading this made me think that the students were older and maybe realized what Sam actually did have to offer and that the Principal just didn't see that. He is weird but he also really thinks and lives differently. If I met someone like that, I think it would change the way I think and I would probably be mind-blown about some of the things that we do everyday that maybe aren't 'right' or efficient. The way he thinks about politics makes one really think about different aspects that we would never have thought of before. That his students made a song and gave him a shout out must mean a lot to him and the principal might see how he maybe wasn't the worst teacher.
What are the parents thinking??
I totally agree about the song- I think as teachers it is validating to be honored by students. To be honest I have no idea how to answer your question! It's interesting, but difficult to determine. I almost wish we were given an insight into the parent's views somehow.
Q: "Laura's words hovered in the air like the last note of a symphony before the audience begins to applause."
C: I know this does not seem like a very striking quote, but I just liked the scene that was set up around the quote. How they are reading poetry and Sam cannot stop listening to how she is delivering the poem. I was thinking when I was reading that this is totally a super sensitive guy thing. Haha I know when I was in middle school I was in love with a girl like this that I barely knew. I just think it is funny reading this, just remembering that chick. But the whole scene how it was building by showing her reading one stanza, then another one. I remember how Mrs. Clark was saying that the author tried to make this interesting to people who were young. I think that this is one of the scenes that represents that.
Q: Do you think that all types of entertainment have to include some type of interaction that is more than friends between two characters to be interesting?
It depends. In this case they were good for each other as a romance. In other cases friendship is more important. Have a good night ISAAC FERNANDEZ. Sweet dreams.
Definitely not! I think that a person could have a man vs. himself interaction and it would be interesting as well!
I don't think so I believe that people can also be entertained by themselves while doing a hobby that they are passionate about.
I do believe a deeper connection between characters can always lead to an interesting story and more drama. but not all stories need this in order to be fun to read or watch, like Nicole said a story that has man vs himself could be just as eventful.
Nope, I feel that I have seen or read many things to know that there doesn't have to be any type of relationship between two people to make a good story or movie, although other charters could help build and understand a main charter.
"Thank you" he said. " "For what?" "For everything."
What a way to end the book. Honestly, if I was Sam I would leave the school. It is not that I would not believe in myself and beliefs, it is because it was right time to quit. Sometimes you need to do it in order to grow more. In fact Sam got big thing from that EdwardSchool adventure. He got Laura. These two are perfect for each other as we could have seen in the book. Also the scene where students made him song was really exciting. That is the biggest award that he could have got. There is a quote: Defeat your enemies with your success. And Sam surely mad principal that he made a mistake.
Did principal really realized that he made a mistake?
I don't know if the principal will ever realize how great of a loss Sam in to the school.
I think that after Sam was gone he did realize it was a mistake but he wouldent ever know how important Sam was.
Quote: “The unseen costs often fall on the very people it is trying to help. Look for policies that work, not policies that create the illusion you are making a difference.”
Commentary: I wholeheartedly agree with Sam’s statement here, and I feel like this is the sum of all of his economic insights and opinions. Do not pretend that you are changing the world when you are not; I think that’s what he meant when he and Laura had their first conversation on the train. He said that she should try to help people on their terms, not hers, because helping on her terms was the illusion that she was making a difference when, really, the best difference she could have made would be to listen to what the homeless man wanted rather than to decide for him what he wanted. This was sort of the same point he made about welfare programs; there is no one-size-fits-all approach to alleviating poverty. For some, money is necessary; for others, sobriety; for others, still, love. And that’s why Sam thought that welfare programs from the government were erroneous, because they only provide people with one way to end their situation. He believes that the government is no better than Laura’s brother, forcing V-8 Juice onto homeless people without any regard to what would actually help. Those cans of V-8 Juice are the illusion that Sam discusses here.
Now that I have finished the book, I can say that I think I have a broader understanding of a fiscal conservative. Before reading, I guess I did just think that those that opposed welfare secretly hated poor people and wanted them to starve. And, though I wasn’t swayed by his arguments, I now understand that people who do oppose entitlements and welfare programs aren’t monsters. If anything, they have a more romantic outlook on life.
Question: Now that the book is over, how much of Sam’s arguments do you agree with?
Sam is exhausting-he makes me tired, but if you follow his arguments all the way through (without getting lost in the details), he has a lot of good points. I truly do not know how many I agree or disagree with.
Sam was very persuasive when he talked about his opinions so even if I didn't initially agree with his arguments I started to see where he was coming from on a lot of them.
A human heart has its reasons and those reason's can not know.
This quote actually made me think what the quote actually means. I thought of it meaning that a heart has its own reasons but who ever really knows that reasons. The human heart feels different things that we are even unsure of and it's our heart too. I really liked this quote because it really made me think about what it really means.
What do you think the quote meant?
I love your quote!! The idea of the amorous heart is a complex and intriguing one. Do you know how many different definitions of love there are?? Everyone views love differently! I personally believe each heart is unique and has its reasons which are often difficult to understand, but we just have to accept them and all their abstract-ness :)
"to live in a world without free lunches. A world without consequences and costs is a world without meaningful choice. A life without responsibility is not the life of the adult--it's the life of the animal, the child, or the robot."
I really like Sam's perspective throughout this book. He takes things that seem relatively bad, and makes a good meaning out of it. Such as purchasing lunch everyday, and although it costs money and is a tough decision, it is a necessary decision that allows people to have meaning in their life. This expands onto anything someone purchases, as they have to weigh both the consequences as well as the benefits. It makes people think more about what they are doing, and gives them responsibility in their life.
Question: How do you feel about Sam's stance on certain topics?
After reading your post, I will now take more pride in my decision to buy lunch, for I know it is one that shapes my life, among others.
"Maybe give the prisoners more space. You take fewer of them but more survive."
I've always agreed that things get done more effectively when done economically. In this passage he talks about how you can use economic incentive to make things more efficient and its a pretty smart/valid point.
What about when economic intensive isn't enough, like if morals are in the way. Slave traders during early Americans probably would have made more money off of slaves if they let them stay healthy, but because they were racist they did what was actually bad for the people and made them worth less at market. (I'm not at all saying we should improve slave importing strategies, i'm just using it as an example. I stand firmly against slavery.)
I enjoy how though provoking your question is, and yes, don't worry, I am also against slavery.
"When you tamper with incentives, beware of the unforeseen. Our intentions maybe good, but if we forget about the incentives that are woven through complex systems, we make terrible mistakes"
Incentives are the things which motivate us, where intentions are the reasons we chose to do something. I think what this quote is saying is that if you take away the thing that motivates someone, they are more likely to loose their drive that will allow them to accomplish what they intended. They could simply become lazy with it and do whatever task poorly, or they could become angry with having to do something they aren't motivated for and loose sight of why they are doing it in the first place.I see this quote as a warning. People typically have the best of intentions, but its how they do what they intend which really matters. I had a friend who always promised things and said they were feeling certain ways, but their actions never matched up. A relative of mine always says "don't let your mouth write a check your body can't cash" and I think this relates to the quote because your verbal intentions could be pure, but what drives you and what motivates you could be lost and then you can't do what you promised.
What inspires/ motivates you?
I love the simplicity of your question! What inspires me is seeing people be kind to one another and live life in harmony. I love the sense of accomplishment, even though I am not necessarily a part of their connection.
Seeing people happy inspires me. I truly enjoy watching CBS Sunday Morning. It is full of good stories. Everyone should watch it!
" '… the human heart has its reasons that reason cannot know' "
I find this quote to be utterly beautiful. Following this quote is a discussion about a divorce, and then following that is an argument about who caused the divorce, which somehow transitions into an argument about discrimination, which [finally] leads to the conversation they were meant to have. The question Sam is asking is "Why are you going to law school?" to which Laura simply responds "I don't want to wait for people to become better… I want to make the world a better place." Essentially what I take away from this is the following- you don't have to love someone who wishes the same change in the world as you do. Opposites attract- and I feel like by the end of the book I as a reader am left with a sense of hope. A hope of change. Even though this ending wasn't exactly a resolution, it was ambiguous and almost reminds me of a choose-your-own-adventure, except this is a choose-your-own-change-in-the-world. In a way I am grateful for this anecdote. However the real ending is one I did not understand- are they supposed to be coming back from summer vacation? What happened to them? Are they still together? Are they happy? There are many questions but only one person who can answer them. Thanks a lot, Russell Roberts, for leaving me with a hole that should be filled with the love of Sam and Laura.
Why do you think the author chose to leave Sam and Laura's relationship ambiguous? Do you think that was an artistic choice, or was he worried that he would upset the die-hard economic romance fan base?
I don't know if there is a die hard economic romance fan base, but if there is I am in it. I think thats probably the reason.
“That’s an interesting idea. If you’re the owner of the business, then it is fine. The profits are yours…Remember what Aaron Feuerstein did?” (page 201)
This part of the conversation and what follows between Laura and Sam made me think about Steve Jobs when I went to the movie “Jobs.” When Steve Jobs went public with Apple all his power went to the stockholders.
When someone owns their own company, they have total power in deciding what objectives they want to meet and they may not always be about profits. On the other hand when someone is the CEO of a company, the stockholders are driving the company’s agenda and their objective is all about company profits. Therefore, company CEO/owners can give to their employees in the same way they would give to a charity while CEOs have to always be focused on growth that results in profits because they have to answer to the stockholders.
If you saw the “Jobs” movie, did you find it fascinating?
Do you think that have stockholders is a good idea than? Shouldn't your business have your own ideas, I think that have stockholders steer businesses away from creativity but where the money is.
I thought is pretty interesting, it showed how such a large business was started
Q: “‘But why won’t you fight?’ She was crying now. ‘Because this is a fight I can’t win. It’s a fight I don’t want to win. The real fight, the one over ideas, I’ll fight that one forever. And as you grow older, and read some more and think some more, I hope you’ll still be on my side. You are a very bright kid. I expect great things from you. Stay in touch, OK? I’ll leave a forwarding address with the school once I know where I’m going.’”
C: I really like this part because I really think that this is when you really find out the type of person Sam is. I really appreciate how he didn’t want to black mail for his cause, even if he didn’t want to leave the school. And I really like that his relationship with his students is strong, as shown by Amy. I think this shows that Sam is the kind of guy that will stand down when it comes to what the greater good is. I also respect Sam’s integrity a lot more after reading this part of the book, and I admire his character, because its not something I would expect from him.
Q: If you were in Sam’s position, what would you do?
I agree with you, It says a lot about someone when they can back down from something that they believe in of the greater good.
Quote: "I love that you're a fish swimming upstream. I was hoping you'd swim with the tide and act like anybody else would and fight for your job"
Comment: It's so true in this quote many people try to become successful without really thinking about other, and how they could help them to be successful while also helping themselves in the process.
Question: What would happen to the world if no one asked each other questions to help them be successful?
Well I think that people wouldn't be capable of getting critique and improving because no one would be able to ask clarifying questions.
"Selling cocaine is against the law. And making it illegal has done nothing more for drug use other than glamorize it and make it more profitable.Why not make an activity legal but reviled."
This quote without a doubt stuck me more than other quote from another book we have ever read. It was also really relevant to a lot of people. While a simple solution to a lot of problems is to get ride of something or outlaw it doesn't really change peoples perceptions. Take guns for example, a lot of people would like to outlaw weapons because they believe that it would be a safer environment without legal weapons. But people who really want guns or someone that really wants to harm another individual will get a gun if there illegal or legal. People tend to think that outlawing something means that its non existent, however it typically has a reversal affect. What Sam is trying to say is that in order to really get ride of something it needs to be frowned upon by the general public enough for someone to want to stop them, not stop them because its the law. You can agree or disagree with the law enough to do something about it but if you really personally believe something than your going to want your voice to be heard.
How do you shift public opinion?
I think that a shift in public opinion would require propaganda techniques and proper education. If you learn about something in a dumbed down by over dramatized way you won't take it seriously.
"I love that you are a fish that swims upstream. But this thins at the school is the one time that I was hoping you's swim with the tide and act like anybody else would and fight for your job."
The first half of this quote made me think how hard it is for someone to be fully accepted by society if they don't exactly fit their set guidelines and regulations for how a person should act, what they should like, etc. And no, i'm not talking about anyone who has unique interests not having loving family and friends. I'm talking about someone who is a little more introverted, someone who has different religious, political, or fundamental beliefs than the people who surround them. There are always people whom others feel uncomfortable around, or even shun, because of what they believe.
How many people feel rejected in some way by others based on what they believe/know to be true?
I think that everyone will feel rejected at some point because of all the different combinations of opinions out there. No two people will have the exact same opinion on everything, and anyone who says they do is lying.
"True, But I love America. Its still the place of possibility."
The American dream! My opinion has changed so much since the beginning of the year on that saying. I used to think that this saying was always true and every hardworking individual can create big things and amazing life. But as we read books on foreigners that come to pursue this dream, I now start to think it is more false advertisement then actual reality. They come to this land with high hopes to immediately be shut down by our system, and it seems to me that only the lucky make it to the big dollars.
Compared to other countries do you believe America has the largest chances of becoming successful and does it deserve holding the title "The American Dream"
Yes I believe that it does hold a very large success rate however it also holds certain groups down. I think that America does deserve the title of "American Dream" because it is such a large melting pot of ethnicities where everyone is excepted.
Yes I agree with Jackson. He makes a good point about different ethnicities being acceptable in Americas society. It brings a lot more oppurtunities to the table.
I entirely think that the US has a higher success rate, and that is tied directly to our fundamental rights as human beings in this country.
"Life is about discrimination, when we pick our friends we discriminate. when we choose were to live we discriminate. Discrimination is a choice-choosing some things and rejecting others."
I thought that this was an interesting subject to bring up. This really made me think, it had never occurred to me to think like that. To think that choosing and rejection was discrimination. I also think that people use the "Discrimination" as a bad thing. i don't think that i have ever heard it as a positive.
When was one time that you heard discrimination used positively?
This is a very interesting quote and I never really thought about the choices that I made that had to deal with such a topic until our privledge project. I also like your question about using the word descrimintation in a positive manner, and I never have.
Quote: "The heart has its reasons which reason knows not".
Commentary: I found this quote to be very interesting and powerful. As people, we hope that we can control our lives and plan our futures. Basically using reason, but when it comes to matters of the heart, normally everything goes out the window. However taking this quote to a more literal term, only the mind knows all and our hearts are only a vessel which pumps blood. Causing all things to be control by reason except emotions which are harder to explain and are often unpredictable with their outcome. Tearing about the meaning of logic, but creating a new form of reason that is based on emotion, not fact.
Question: Would it easier to live by the heart or to live by logic?
Your question is very existential but I would have to say logical. I say logic because while listening to your heart is good, we don't always know what's best for ourselves and those around us. Using logic we can realize how it impacts those around us and make a morally correct judgement as to what we should do.
Truly it would be easier to live by the heart. If you live by logic, you begin to over analyze things and it causes unhappy and unhealthy relationships.
I Agree if we look at it in a more literal term, and that was interesting you thought that way. Anyways I think that in the end people would use reason to make decisions but at the same time looking at their feelings and how feelings could be affected
Q: "His riches weren't taken from anybody. Thats why I hate it when people say that successful capitalists or corporations should give something back."
C: I have to say that Sam has some good points about Walmart but still I'd have to disagree. Walmart strategy is selling product at lower prices compared to all other stores. Once these other stores go out of business, Walmart is now able to raise prices seeing as they don't have any competitors. This is a vicious tactic that large franchises can afford to do. Though customers do make the final discussion Walmart is still taking advantage of that fact, seeing how they have enough money already to lower prices.
Q: Do you think it's Walmart's fault for this or the customers?
I think that the disagreement with Walmart is not only with there tactic, but with the feelings that they have towards the actaul company. I know that some people swear by shopping there and others dislike it. While it may seem off topic I believe that what Walmart is doing in the present is ok for the consumers who save money suring the present, yet I have heard issues with their employees. So as I see it Walmart is cutting corners in their products becasue they can afford to.
Quote: "Why not make an activity legal but reviled."
Comment: At this point in the novel Sam was talking about the glorification of drugs and the money that stems from that. I think that this idea is relevant to the world we live in, especially as teenagers. I have always thought about what it would be like if drugs were legalized. I know that just becasue they are illegal it does not mean that their are not users out there. It almost makes it more dangerous in a sense becasue if there are deaths in the trading and selling of such products, in the affiliated groups. Yet the effect of making such substances leagal would be dangerous too becasue people would be staggering around, and penalizing people for uncontrolled usage would be near to impossible. I think that the idea of this is that when laws are made people do not necesarily follow them, even in such simple things like jay-walking. People still do it, yet they are not penalized becasue in the grand scheme of things it is not a big deal to law enforcement, or should not be. I again think that this quote was on that could open many various forms of discussion so I found it very interesting when reading it.
Question: What would it be like if mind altering substances like drugs were made legal, would they become more popular or would the glorification decrease?
I agree with what you're saying, and I have a similar beliefs. I have also wondered about this question. I do think glorification would decrease with popularity.
" I love that you're a fish swimming upstream. I was hoping you'd swim with the tide and act like anybody else would and fight for your job"
You know this quote really got to me because at this point its coming out as if success is only a one sided factor. I know that to others its seen as a whole spectrum since we are now in a society where people see the importance of giving back to one another. In the way this quote came about, it is formed in a way that explains that with any personal gains that you acquire the amount of success can totally disregard other people. Those other people that are close friends and family can potentially get hurt as well.
Sam didn't stick to the ones he cared about most. If you were in Sam's position would you stick with your loved ones?
If I were in Sam's position, I would probably stick with my loved ones because it seemed that many people liked Sam, especially his students.
"Discrimination is choice-choosing some things and rejecting others. The Edwards School has rejected me. Ive got to deal with it."
I chose this quote because I felt bad for Sam. He strongly disagreed with the cause that got him fired, but he decided to accept it and handle the situation like a gentlemen. Throughout the whole book I realized that Sam views the world the same way he views economics. I was intrigued by the information he gave out in this book, and to be honest, it some what changed my perspective on economics and what it really has to offer.
Did anyone else find Sam's points interesting throughout the book?
I though many of Sam's views on the world were interesting. They seemed to differ from the general public's. But, I think that is because he was was constantly referring to economics as a basis for his views.
"When you tamper with incentives, beware of the unforeseen. Our intentions maybe good, but if we forget about the incentives that are woven through complex systems, we make terrible mistakes"
I think this resonates very much for teenagers as we go on further in life. I think we tend to look to improve with good intentions but never look at the repercussions of what we have done. Often times the glory of our accomplishment hide the negative effects we may have caused. What I think Sam meant when he gave this lecture was to keep an open mind when doing something you believe to be good and look at all the possibilities and how it will affect others. You can't blindly go into something and not consider others. What seems good to you may not be good for others especially in the long run. I noticed this was a reoccurring theme in many of Sam's lectures. For example his belief that you should give homeless person what they want want not what you feel they need. I think he believes deeply in the relationships between people and the things around them and how they should have and equal balance and also in the freedom of choice in how someone lives their life.
Do you agree with any of Sam's beliefs?
"Would it be right got me to give away the group's wood? That would be wrong. Immoral even... That would jeopardize the entire enterprise."
I really liked Sam's description of how companies work. I had always wondered why more charities weren't sponsored by companies, but now I see how that can be difficult when they are responsible for the livelihood of all of their employees. And it totally debunked the whole "evil CEO" mindset for me because it explained how they had to make sure the money flowed through every part of the business and that people who aren't pleasant to work with won't last in the long run.
My question is how could companies shift towards benefiting others while still balancing their company?
"A world without consequences and costs is a world without meaningful choice, A life without responsibility is not the life of the adult - it's the life of the animal, the child, or the robot."
This quote really speaks to me only because it strikes the core of human beings. We always wish to live our lives care free on some beach somewhere but when we think about it we all know we would go insane without any responsibilities. At this point our lives operate around school, which is a form of work, and imagine how you would perceive everything if that was suddenly taken away from you. Imagine how weird and different you would feel if all of a sudden you had no school, no homework, no job, etc. The answer is typically you would feel uncomfortable. We are so used to the idea of comfortability and routine that we couldn't live without it. Just a shower thought I suppose.
My question is: Really think about how you would feel if all of a sudden we had no bio-honors presentation, no math presentation and no humanities play. At first you would think it's nice but given time how would you feel?
I think if that did happen, TJ, I would lose sanity. It sounds funny, I know, but without any responsibilities, I wouldn't know what to do with myself, and I would feel like I had no purpose.
Quote: "every teacher brings his or her philosophy to bear in the classroom"
When I read this line, I instantly thought of high-tech high. One of the interesting things about the curriculum at our school is that each teacher has the opportunity to display opinions and philosophy through history and science. I think it's interesting how the rest of the quote says "Every political science and history teacher does it" and I think that's true. Every history teacher who I have had has displayed their opinion and philosophy through the content that is being taught. I think it is an interesting way for material to be displayed because different opinions and viewpoints can be shared. It can often be construed as a bad thing, people claim that it is bias and so on. However that is how everything in life is, things are bias, and history is biased. So it's good to learn about it. There is controversy and opinion in at all.
Question: I do wonder how other people feel about this same topic, do they think it is a good thing or a bad thing?
"forcing people to hire women would not make them less sexist" "it might. It might make them change their views"
I thought this is pretty interesting. There is a statement made that seems pretty logical. Forcing people to hire women would not make them less sexist. If you think about it that makes sense, but what is said after that changes the viewpoint of it. Although the original statement makes sense, the argument changes people's views on it, and that shows that views can be changed. I do think that if more women are being hired, people's viewpoints can change. Even if it has to be somewhat forced.
How many people do you think have change their viewpoint about women in the workplace by being forced to hire them?
I don't think many people's views would change. Honestly, I think it would make people even more sexist because they would feel spite towards the women.
I don't think that many viewpoints would change because many are often only involved with themselves, they don't have the time to change their viewpoints.
Q: "If you want people to be motivated to change the world, you have to let the market reward their efforts. Unfortunately, that means tolerating the negative side of competition as well."
C: The perspectives that this book shows (although its bias is towards capitalism) are something I haven't had too much experience with. So when thinking about the tactics that companies use, like this quote explain, are fascinating to me. From the point of view of Sam, companies will fire a portion of people to keep a bigger portion of employees with good pay, etc, along with competitors. Laura's point is what happens to the people who were fired. In a situation like that, I've always looked at it from Laura's perspective, probably because that is what would affect me most as well as what I see around the most. I've never thought about what it would do for the people still at the company. I don't have an opinion on this yet because I don't have enough sources from all sides, but its still interesting to see a perspective I wouldn't have ever thought about.
Q: I wonder how people's opinions would change if they knew all sides of this argument (I guess this could be applied to almost anything though...)
Quote: "Once you put the human heart on trial in the courtroom, you can no longer catch just the guilty"
Comment: When I read this I thought this to be very interesting just because they were talking about discrimination. It also mentions after that that because everyone judges people it's harder for people to get along making the world unfair. From my point of view I felt that by Laura saying this she meant that the heart would express more of your guilt and your true feelings.
Question: Is this because it's not just facts but also true emotions involve?
"Why would I want to work at the Edwards School if I knew they didn't want me?"
I think that this really sums up Sam's view of why he won't fight his termination. He could've fought it, and he's an excellent arguer, so he probably could have won, but he chose not to fight it. I was reading the book and finding it hard to understand why he wouldn't fight the termination until I read this quote. I had never really thought about these types of things if he had been terminated. The staff would obviously judge him, and the students would be hearing rumors for quite a while and would probably believe them. I really enjoy that Sam is able to see all the sides of the consequences for an action. I know that if I was Sam, I definitely wouldn't want to work at a place that didn't accept me. This actually has happened to me before. I worked at a place that was rude to me, rejected all of my ideas, ignored me, discriminated against me, and more. I remedied the situation by leaving the company, and that has made all the difference.
What would you have done in Sam's situation and why?
“ “So you’re gonna fight it, right? Appeal the decision?” “No, I’m leaving the school. I’ll go to graduation and say goodbye to my students, and find another job.” ”
I really do not understand Sam’s decision. The whole book he seemed like the kind of person to fight for something like this. Or just about anyone who believed different then him. Especially since he has been argueing almost the whole book. Then he was provided with opportunities to fight it such as the envelope and he still does not fight the decision. He is excellent at argueing so he probably could have won. He would rather leave a job he already knows he could fight for and probably get back. To go through a lot of time (where he might be unpaid) looking for a new job. This just completely confuses me.
I don’t understand if Sam can fight it, why doesn’t he?
Quote: "You're the only guy I know who can make misery sound inspiring."
Comment/Analysis: This stood out to me because I think that it is very true and relates to a lot of what Sam has to say. This book shows most characters as only looking at the poorer aspects of situations where as Sam finds the good in each situation and how it compares to the alternative. I realize that in this book Sam is always supposed to win the arguments but I feel like as the book as progressed his perspectives and reasonings have become more developed. Sam makes some really interesting points and brings in a new perspective to situation that to others seem like nothing good could come from them and they were better off before but Sam looks at a wider perspective and shows more on the issue that is usually hard to see.
Question: Since Sam has developed the ability to look at a wider perspective in economics does/can he apply it to other aspects of his life? How did he develop this perspective?
"the human heart has its reasons that reason cannot know"
The human tendency of attraction isnt something that we can hold in our hand. It is neither something we can see, smell, or hear. Therefore we have very few reasons to understand it. Sam is more of a literal thinker, he is more easily convinced by tangible things for that is a normal attribute in economists.
My question is do you ever feel like sam relationships or sarah?
Quote: "Only a dead fish swims with the tide."
This was a funny quote. I thought that it was interesting that he made this analogy, especially because he shut down in front of Laura's friends just so that he could impress her. I think a lot of people think that in order to impress someone they have to go with the flow, where it might be the opposite. I have seen some examples in the world where people try to suppress themselves just to try to get what they want, when in reality it would work out better if they were themselves. In the book I found this to be very out of character for Sam, he has been so passionate and honest, that is what Laura likes, but he was willing to try a different approach in order to get a little further.
Question: "When is it okay to suppress yourself?"
Q: "A human heart has its reasons and those reason's can not know."
C: I know this quote was overused but its the one that felt the most meaningful to me. People all have intentions, weather they are good or bad they still do what they do because they feel like its the right thing to do. People make decisions and their heart is what tells them what to do.
C: Do you feel like people make decisions on impulse or does their heart/mind affect what they do?
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